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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 10:21 PM

What is desire? What is want? What is need? What is life?

All are rooted in MORTALITY. Only biological living things can have values, in fact, on fundamental level, valuation is what living things do. If a thing is not alive, it does not have the ability to have preferences.

Consciousness is a process of brain function – which is built on: Sensation, Perception, and Conception.

It will never be possible to bypass sensation and perception, and start at conception. The only thing our machines will ever do is what they are programmed to do.” ……. Posted by JVessel on 08/26/11 03:03 PM

It will never be possible to bypass sensation and perception, and start at conception. The only thing our machines will ever do is what they are programmed to do.” … . Posted by JVessel on 08/26/11 03:03 PM

Presently so that may be so for your machines, JVessel. Others though would have virtual machines which are not so primitively hindered within the confines of ignorance and chained to arrogance and false certainty.

And is not, and I pause before venturing to call it intelligent human life, not somewhat doggedly preoccupied with immortality and thoughts of the afterlife and Godlike beings that have created everything from nothing* and do not now have any physical animal form … … which is really weird and quite endearingly alien metaphysical concept should it not be a certifiable madness.

* A bit like thinking that wealth and power and control that is created by dumb printing machines spewing out illuminated notes for Quantitative Easing into the Slave Markets. In fact, it is more than a lot like it.

Does certifiable madness spread as would a rabid virulent highly destructive airborne contagion of notifiable pathogens?

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/27/11 06:39 AM

Almost all technology has the ability to be harnessed for beneficial purposes. The real question is: whose hands are holding the harness?

Unfortunately mankind always has among its population a signal few who, from their privileged perch, view themselves as gods. The inclination to self deification did not end with the Roman Caesars as history tends to imply. These few are the ones whose domain is tyrannical control over the lives of others through institutional power, whether government, church, or corporate in nature. Following Gutenberg the institutional power of the church waned, leaving governments and corporations as the mechanisms through which mankind is now being ushered into a new order, their order.

If the elite have a true religion then that religion is humanism, with themselves at the apex. Once ensconced at the apex of humanity what more is there to do than to create life as proof of their god-like abilities or, better yet, create themselves into ‘eternal’ beings by means of transhumanism, leading ultimately to posthumanism. At that point the fusion between man and machine will be complete and the struggle will be between natural man and genetically reprogrammed machine-man.

What even many of the most perspicacious observers of societal trends seem to miss is that SAI and pure machine life are mere foils for the very real (and present) specter of transhumanism. These genetically programmed man-machines are not just a pipe dream (pun intended) as most believe. In reality it has already gone far beyond what most can even imagine. According to Thomas Horn, DARPA alone has sunk millions, if not billions, of dollars into variations of the ‘super-soldier’ technology. This artifice is certainly the wet dream of the eugenics movement, a natural outgrowth of human-centric religion, whose goal is the perfection of mankind even if they have to destroy it in the process.” ….. Posted by Steve L. on 08/26/11 10:22 PM

At that point the fusion between man and machine will be complete and the struggle will be between natural man and genetically reprogrammed machine-man.

Is that fusion point already reached and past/passed, Steve L, with the present struggles and earthly chaoses and their contrived military conflicts indicative of the battle’s warring losers self-destructive decline and crazy moral decay into sub-prime and immoral and intellectually bankrupt and amoral forms of future solutions to past problems being presented?

How does one address a genetically reprogrammed machine-man, in this day and age? iMan/iBot/iRobot/iSmartProject/iVirtualMachine/iRoboSapiens or would Dear Sir/Madam also work seamlessly?

And would their/its moral and ethical CodeXSSXXXX be Base AIT Polyamoral for the much greater and deeper and wider benefits which are always delivered with an Inclusive Singularity, rather than Divisive Exclusivity with Fragmenting Polarities, such as is so clearly evident in the Great Game and Democracy Scam with its Party Political Divisions and Crass Stupid Oppositions?

And if it is a New Era of Simply Complex Virtual Machinery Control, would IT be BetaTesting Present Command and Control Systems as may be perceived by many to exist to maintain Status Quo SCADA Executive Order, with the simplest of missives in the mail traversing nodes in their systems ………. http://amanfrommars.wordpress.com/about/

Think of it and IT and SAI like a Advanced Turing Test of simple humans for complex beings ….. to sort out the smart men from the lost boys and the real brainy ladies from the virtually attractive girls?

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
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amanfromMars

How very odd that we do not see live mainstream media tv footage of liberated Libya. Is the NATO war going badly, rather than brilliantly? It certainly seems to be destroying the nation rather than freeing the people, who will be enslaved to outside help for apparently decades at least. Was that always the capitalist masterplan and the shameful medal that now hangs around the failure of a UK government’s neck? What say William Hague and Liam Fox to that questioning of their apparent folly, and some would even say, criminally liable insane gamble?

And is the UK liable for war reparations claims, to make good all the damage that has been done with their logistical and material support of dissidents/
insurgents/rebels/freedom fighters/call them what you will? Or is Libya expected to pay for everything and will it be being billed for all of the help the media has told us it has been getting from NATO and US forces?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/libyan-rebels-claim-victory-south-of-tripoli-2344931.html
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