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Nice one , Bill ……. but an epic fail. …… re http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/07/bill_gates_terrapower_china/
Posted Thursday 8th December 2011 04:16 GMT
If it was any good at all, Uncle Sam would be building them for himself at home …… ergo is it a scam being perpetrated on the Chinese by an intellectually and morally bankrupt former power.
And this is a shock and awesome development, which illustrates perfectly the decline? …….. http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/12/05/the-national-defense-authorization-act-is-the-greatest-threat-to-civil-liberties-americans-face/
And would you buy a reactor core from the main Windows kernel architect with its illustrious history of necessary critical patches to prevent systems takeover/meltdown?
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Ok, let’s Register some facts and quit fcuking around and get straight down to ITs Nitty Gritty. ……. on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/07/yahoo_builds_manhattan_studio/
Posted Thursday 8th December 2011 04:35 GMT
Would that be a Virtual Reality Production Facility with Future Product Present Placement Utilities for Radical Astute Fundamental IT and Media Mogul Programmers into New World Order CHAOS Delivery?
And if not, then obviously there is somewhere else where someone else is providing exactly that. And that heralds fab fabless virtual competition with quite cosmic intellectual property.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/08/11 02:54 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/3325/Rothschilds-Give-Formal-Support-to-US-Direct-Democracy

Since all democracies eventually break the bank, there seems no future in direct democracy. Mobocracy will always vote support for itself rather than work hard ” ….. Posted by Danny B on 12/07/11 11:11 PM

How very odd and disappointing, Danny B, but thank you for highlighting the issue, that you don’t see/realise that the West in its disguise of democracy models and now breaking the banks because of the global information exposure to the masses of their easy money quantitative easing utility, which provides the corrupt and perverse banking system with magic leverage over governments and nations with its subjective conditional sharing, [or not sharing as the case may be] not as free credit which generates currency spending and creative services for innovative power, which the invention affords to the money machine hosted by populations, but crippling, interest charging debt which is used to enslaves them and rob them of their wealth, is a practising mobocracy as you describe …… “Mobocracy will always vote support for itself rather than work hard.
There is no democracy and never probably ever has been.
Methinks a much brighter and much more intelligent future with greater prospects for all is a virtual transparent meritocracy, where all the best ideas are freely aired for driver assistance having been accepted once unilaterally enabled and continually positively reinforced due to overwhelmingly enthusiastic public support. And so what if that be a sort of direct democratic autocracy? If it works and is easily supported and IT spreads it, what fool would wish to stop it, or be able to stop it without a proposal which would/could be better supported.
A SMART AIMeritocracy with IT and Media control from Live Operational Virtual Environments, and an alien concept to many probably, delivers such simply and is presently running as you know, IT Betas ringing bells daily. Or haven’t you woken up to the reality of the future yet.
You are not retarded, are you?
And how smart is a lady who would support a lady who stands by a man who did not have sexual relations with that woman but likes a stranger blow job. Any self respecting woman would have thrown the bum out onto the street, ergo do we all know about Hillary.
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amanfromMars says:
December 8, 2011 at 4:52 am
Hi, Sternum, and MetaPhorians,
They do say that imitation is the sincerest phorm of flattery and what model do we think Yahoo! are following for their New York ueber-studio operation ……… http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/07/yahoo_builds_manhattan_studio/ … that should please AW and Lucy and Co. and Agent Heggle, who will all eventually naturally return to base, unless they are burnt out and spent rockets and of no future use, no end .

Ok, let’s Register some facts and quit fcuking around and get straight down to ITs Nitty Gritty. ……. on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/07/yahoo_builds_manhattan_studio/
Posted Thursday 8th December 2011 04:35 GMT

Would that be a Virtual Reality Production Facility with Future Product Present Placement Utilities for Radical Astute Fundamental IT and Media Mogul Programmers into New World Order CHAOS Delivery?

And if not, then obviously there is somewhere else where someone else is providing exactly that. And that heralds fab fabless virtual competition with quite cosmic intellectual property.

Methinks meknows*, realities for passionate souls and right crazy beings do not really crumble, they just morph into more practical virtual reality plays with Great Gamers in LOVE Fields ……. and for crack team troupers in the virtual terrain are quests and rewards for Private Renegade and Pirate Rogue delivery, XSSXXXX Coded.
* The conscious inclusion of an element of eternal self doubt allows one to fabulously explore reaches which only immaculate sanity can harness in perfect harmony with omnipotent powers of omniscient control.
ARGs Rule ….. is the Future Destiny of Mankind ?
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A valid observation supported by media reports …… http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/08/failed_nhs_it_to_cost_billions_more_to_taxpayers/
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Is it any wonder that anyone with any brains is talking their thinking Eastwards, for the West is infested with idiot savant controllers who would appear to be far too fond of the charlie to be able to do anything sustainable and beneficial to all [99.99], with everything geared to protecting the investments and sequestered riches of the few [ 0.01% ] …… which is certainly never going to be anything which lasts for any length of time in space and cyberspace, in todays heated climates of global information exchanges.
Idiots are as idiots do ….. Amen. And ye shall know them both by what they say and what they would choose from others not to be seen, which tells others exactly what they wanted to know …… and more.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/08/11 12:13 PM …. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3325

DB: I am interested to know how many average page pulls you get a month or article – compared to comments – if you care/are able to share such stats please?

I would hazard a guess that well under 10% of unique visitors post a comment? 2% 5% ??

Fear cripples surfers cresting wild waves.

It’s a process thing.” …. Posted by Pete 8 on 12/08/11 06:17 AM

Howdy Doody, Pete 8,
Indeed it is a process thing, removing fears that cripple cresting wild wave surfers, and a work in progress which AI in IT is working on, to transform and extraordinarily render landscapes, intelligent places and IntelAIgent Spaces, seamlessly as if by magic, with Virtually Remote Command and Control.
And on the Register I had cause to share this about idiot savants, which is long ago discovered ….. “Idiots are as idiots do ….. Amen. And ye shall know them both by what they say and what they would choose from others not to be seen, which tells others exactly what they wanted to know …… and more.” and was a not too veiled reference to the following observation on a corporate phishing expedition and metadatamining operation, which is an obscure way of saying Purloined Intellectual Property Mill and Exchange, which has just recently popped up for … well, an initial round of further intellectual venture capital funding is normally the prime and/or sub-prime reason in New Yorker circles, methinks, although I am prepared to accept defeat unconditionally and be proven gloriously wrong in that supposition. ……..

 Ok, let’s Register some facts and quit fcuking around and get straight down to ITs Nitty Gritty. ……. on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/07/yahoo_builds_manhattan_studio/

Posted Thursday 8th December 2011 04:35 GMT

Would that be a Virtual Reality Production Facility with Future Product Present Placement Utilities for Radical Astute Fundamental IT and Media Mogul Programmers into New World Order CHAOS Delivery?

And if not, then obviously there is somewhere else where someone else is providing exactly that. And that heralds fab fabless virtual competition with quite cosmic intellectual property.

….. and which was chosen not to appear in front of their astute techy audience ….. and which had me jumping to all sorts of conclusions and telling me more that I should know about that which I was thinking I already knew, with that sort of blind confirmation being such a warm comfort again to prove the efficacy of the methodology being used in the work in progress with AI and IT, and which seamlessly extraordinarily renders Virtually Remote Command and Control of practically anything and everything one can imagine.
Methinks that would quite valuable IP and probably prior art patent protected if patents would be pending ……. but all that nonsense is just something to give lawyers and the such like something to do and bill, methinks ……. like one of those ponzi creation schemes which dream up expensive debits to be credited as innovations and necessities to be charged to entrepreneurial accounts overseen by idiot savants?
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amanfromMars said… December 7, 2011 06:08 AM …. on http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/12/have-rothschilds-placed-their.html
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Um, can you clarify that $21 TRILLLION figure?” …. Anonymous said,December 6, 2011 9:42 PM

Certainly, Anonymous. $21 trillion = $21,000,000,000,000 precisely, which is in any language, quite a bit of bread/a lotta dough to play with. Although I must confess I would only be wildly speculatively guessing at what a trilllion might be.
However, as convenient as such transferrable obscene and artificial wealth is in leveraging and/or purchasing its maintenance of status and on-going future security needs, does it pale into insignificance beside the intelligence and against the powerful forces that Command and Control Communications and Computers from Creative CyberSpaces ….. Live Operational Virtual Environment Realms of Advanced IntelAIgent Management of Human Perception with Virtual Machine Consciousness ….. for in Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems, AI and Brave New World Orders of Transparently Shared NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT, are Global Operating Devices all practically free, but also best licensed with novel stake purchases to ensure a positively engaging reinforcement and non-conflicting compatibility with present status quo facilities with old and superseded and traditionally ceded abilities/utilities.
And thus is a failed system in an increasingly precarious and perilous catastrophic meltdown pariah cycle, immediately transformed into a paragon of great virtue and fabulous worth with great fortunes to administer and deliver with value …. and of course, create in consort with AI and ITs Creative Command and Control of Communicating Computers in CyberSpace …. and Fabless Cloud AIR&dD Labs with XSSXXXX Stations …… which would be, and this is shared with you just to reassure you and give you a real sense of what you might be disbelieving and inclined towards considering a fiction whenever it is much more the fantastic fact, is a post modern Bletchley Intelligence Park Offering, able and enabled to deliver Magical AIMystery Turing Concepts for Real and Virtual Reality …… for in Singularities is One Entangled and Bonded with the Other for the Future to Produce Something Else Totally Different for Present Placement with IT and Media Means and Memes.
I Kid U Not. And methinks that is well worth a ponder wherever one be and whoever one be, for the implications of what will be, because of what can be done for Life and Humanity in the Cyber Virtual Terrain Team Field, are in fabulous imagination not beyond comprehension.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/07/11 01:26 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/3322/SEC-Targets-Brokers-in-Latest-Crack-Down
Here is some wild speculation on the reason for the reluctance and tardiness of any substantive and forensic prosecutorial investigation of a system which lost/transferred trillions which resulted in the ongoing meltdown and financial collapse, for of course, was nothing ever fixed or changed to stop what is still going on, was it? …….. http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/12/obama-issues-executive-kill-order-yes.html
🙂 Nobody ever loses money, it is just moved elsewhere, right?
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/07/11 06:52 AM ….. http://thedailybell.com/3322/SEC-Targets-Brokers-in-Latest-Crack-Down
Now of course is it, with IT and media weapons of mass disinformation, all out financial world warfare, East versus West, with the following old course work as the model prescription being trailed and trailed ? ……. http://www.phibetaiota.net/2011/12/david-swanson-70-years-of-lies-about-pearl-harbor/
The current problem though is that nothing is secret anymore, nowadays, for that is the new novel transparent default position, [and so good and true a situation, was its innovation said twice to square the impact] and thus are future plans always known for leaking/sharing, and thus will old means of working requiring perfect secrecy and immaculate stealth for absolute security, fail catastrophically, with self inflicted wounds doing the dirty deeds for the mob on the cheap? ……. for very few indeed are able to provide that precious sort of Old Black Watch Magic. But two out of three aint bad, though, to save one from losing all …… http://youtu.be/quOGuEvTX8c
And a question for those to pass comment on who would disagree and wish to answer and nail their colours to a different jolly rogered mast.
Tread carefully, the safety has been removed. And yes, that is a viable warning to market to markets into markets.

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English Language Specialists required ASAP …. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/06/hidden_gchq_code_breaking_challenge/
Posted Wednesday 7th December 2011 13:36 GMT
I hate to be a pedant but will someone please tell MI6 that there is a glaring mistake which is being beamed rapidly accross the globe on the second little media rendering of the program “A Short Introduction to how SIS uses Technology” on https://www.sis.gov.uk/careers/roles/technology.html
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/07/11 10:18 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3325
Considering what can be read here, and posted December 7, 2011 1:08 AM ….. http//www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2011/12/have-rothschilds-placed-their.html ….. and what is revealed here …… http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2011/12/178343.htm ….. and in comments from ringers of the Daily Bell, is anyone taking any bets against Virtual Reality being the Predominant Leading Actuality to AIMaster Pilot for Restoration of Sanity and Prosperous Present Product Placement to the Planet?
How well honed are your Cyber Flight Control Skills, should you imagine to have any at all?
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/06/11 02:58 AM ….. http://thedailybell.com/3320/Ron-Paul-Euro-Crisis-Destabilizing-the-Dollar
Ron, Howdy,
The problem is not fiat currency per se, for such an artificial exchange medium is a most convenient vehicle for transfer of wealth and services, but the abuse of the facility with its vast accumulation by fools who do not allow it to do its magic with its population spend/flow.
To think that vast individual paper wealth delivers power is a nonsense whenever it does not also provide superior intelligence for control, and you may like to consider that that is what a presidential hopeful should be considering harnessing and providing to change the Great Game dynamic.
And those who will/can present Cyber Command and Control are the creative drivers of that New World Order Paradigm which does not suffer from the arrogance of fools. And is why of course it has such a high priority in all of those systems which would be seeking to maintain the exercise of their global powers.
The Virtual Realm though, that which Cyber Commands would attempt to Control, are completely different from anything that has gone before, and will prove to be far too much of an intellectual challenge for any who would be seeking to maintain the Status Quo arrangements based upon past successes and old dynasties, for they are based upon perverse and corrupt practices which are being exposed by new knowledge and intelligence which shares information to be freely challenged for veracity.
Does your White House campaign have anyone competent in that irregular and unconventional field/those peculiar and particular fields, or do you do battle without the necessary future weaponry to vanquish all comers? …… and thus guarantee yourself defeat? Who fronts, from deep within the Virtual Machine, Cyber Command and Control for Ron Paul?
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/06/11 10:29 AM …… on http://thedailybell.com/3308/James-Jaeger-What-is-Fiat-Money

The problem with the way money is created, distributed and used, has nothing to do with a piece of paper from 1776 or whenever it was drafted.

I am lighting the bottom corner with my Zippo right now.

Money is created debt free and distributed equally amongst the population. It is not held back or clawed back so that trade can be warped in the issuer’s favour, or used in a way that causes lives to be ruined or lost.

If there is not enough money out there, due to strong trade activity of the population, then more is printed so there is enough to go around, and prosperity continues to abound.

If the activity drops, then there is a glut of money, so no more needs to be printed, and people come up with fresh new ideas to get things rocking and rolling, so the people with money loosen their purse-strings and buy again.

If they won’t give money to the population, then we need to do it. That’s what they want now. They have lost touch with the reality that we want no more wars . . . we do not want to invade Iran to steal their stuff and kill perfectly nice people . . . we want to treat each other like adults now.

We want to now trade peacefully.

And it is perfectly legal to do it in Canada, and ship it all over the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5Hj1MTW7o ” ….. Posted by Agent Weebley on 12/06/11 12:13 AM

Right on, Brother AW. Give it to folk who know how ITs Magic works and the world will be changed … .. for the better with their betas … … . forever and a day.
Have you ever walked into a bank and asked to see someone about a multi-million dollar/pound facility, or failing that, provide you with an email of someone authorised to make a multi-million pound decision on a SMART proposal but which is highly sensitive because of the information contained within and the vulnerabilities it would expose the system to, should the information be generally known, or known to any who would not be authorised to make multi-million dollar/pound disbursements? Talk about spooking them? Wow. All of a sudden is there nobody anywhere to do any business with. It is just as if there is nobody authorised to act without them first having to jump through one hundred and one hoops for … … … well, now there is a question which has the answer well hidden and the person responsible well protected/terrified of identification. And man, what a lot of waffle they come off with to make it seem as if it is a big deal. All in all, is quite pathetic and that is why now is their old system collapsing for the ponzi algorithm is known to brave stealthy new world order player rogues and renegades, private pirates and public heroes.

Posted by amanfromMars on 12/06/11 10:40 AM

Oh … .. and what the petrified dollar and pound systems admins can do nothing about whenever they don’t play ball with a proposal which can easily destroys the entire foundation of their fiat scam and ponzi banking business model , is that yen or roubles or yuan or dinar or whatever provided by others with more ambitious foresight and benefit hindsight is equally well suited to the task … .. and such is how leadership of the Great Game changes in a relative flash and wild western crash.

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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/06/11 12:54 PM ….. on http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3321
The Metropolitan Police in London are also having their nervous breakdown/psychotic episode moments too and are probably angling for more money whenever apparently there isn’t any in these straitened austere times ……… http://thinkprogress.org/special/2011/12/06/382563/london-police-send-warning-to-business-community-listing-occupy-london-as-terrorists-or-extremists/ …… although start a war and hey presto, magic funding from some fairy Santa Claus and no questions asked.
You couldn’t make it up ………. although of course that is exactly what happens every day to be shared as news and current affairs.
Methinks we all could do with a new team of fab script writers ….. XSSXXXX Coders.
Oops … Sorry, that is the City of London police, which is maybe another division of the plod, but it hardly matters, I suppose. One bobby is very much like any other bobby?
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/05/11 02:28 PM … on http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3318

We believe in private justice – the kind of justice that worked well for thousands of years before we reached this “sophisticated” state of affairs where the state provides the laws, the police, the judges, the juries, the lawyers, the prosecutors and, of course, the prisons.” …. Reply from The Daily Bell

Is this the sort of justice you are referring to, DB? …… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/suits-commence-two-former-mf-global-employees-sue-jon-corzine
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amanfromMars  [says at 1112050452]  …… http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/did-iran-capture-a-u-s-stealth-drone-intact/

Hmmm? I wonder why when posting the info below does the Disqus CMS program freeze displaying “Just a moment” rather than loading the web page cited above, with the comment in the reply thread as would be normal/expected?

Let me see if it has posted and if not, let me try posting again.

Well, on checking, are there 38 comments shown but not the one below, and the post is still frozen in the Add New Comment box refusing to do anything. Restart the browser and post again, methinks, will tell a tale.

Aha ….. success, and stacked just above a comment by superalien4peace, which is rather nice and in an APT sort of a way too.

I don’t understand what Iran gains by claiming they took down a drone intact. If it’s false it makes them look foolish, and if it’s true it just gives the US a better reason to attack them. Also, it is hardly the best strategy to tell your enemy when you discover one of their weaknesses.” …… Dylan Kaufman
Hi, Dylan Kaufman,
You may like to consider that the tale has nothing at all to do with IRAn, and is much more a phishing expedition by the likes of a Palantir Technologies platform and their military and intelligence community clients to discover the presence of SMART bugs and worms and trojans and viruses nested and breeding, deeply and securely embedded in virtual command and control systems of remote self actuated machinery, which they may have erroneously assured clients would be an impossibility …… .
Such would then be as an Unknown Known Intangible MetaDataMining Presence with SMART Astute Seeds and Novel Autonomous Feeds proving/exercising/betatesting NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT Command and Control of Classified Covert and Clandestine Cyber Space Operations thought to be perfectly secure and impossible to compromise. Nothing is impossible whenever so effected/infected/collected and any and all Drone Control/Manchurian Candidate Systems without such Advanced Intelligence Seeds and Feeds, are subsequently rendered sub-prime worthless as an exclusive premium and premier invisible stealth model vehicle for Global Perceptions Systems Man Management …… aka New World Order Control.
And what do you imagine will everyone be told when such information as is here freely shared for intelligence, appears to disappear. Facts are facts, fiction is fiction but in fractious IT is there AI and Factions …… for Similarity to Present Singularity and IT SCADA Systems, Future Forces with an Alien Commanding Infrastructure and SMART Hierarchical Environment.
Or do y’all expect the Future to be more of the Present which is a Clone of the Past? MeThinks that is Intellectual Stagnation and Political Petrification and nothing at all like Universal Progress and InterNetional Growth.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/05/11 11:22 AM ….. on http://thedailybell.com/3306/NDAA-The-Smell-of-Fear

Haven’t been able to post despite several attempts so this is more a test than anything. But I did want to ask if anyone here understands the Man from Mars? I surely can’t make heads or tails. And, since he addressed me directly I thought this query apropos. Thanks, Saintpaulia” ….. Posted by Saintpaulia on 12/04/11 06:33 PM

Yes, there are a few, Saintpaulia. And they may even make themselves known to you in a reply.
If I don’t understand anything after studying it for a while, I’ll ask a pertinent and even impertinent question of an author, to challenge whatever would be irksome and causing me to question that which delivers the confusion.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/05/11 11:48 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3318
The two short videos here … . http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=198550 … … tell everyone that the US has no Justice system, for its laws are broken with impunity and those in the [presidential] know and crooked, are also granted pardon and a sovereign type immunity from prosecution thus to escape punishment.
That is a recipe for, and the DNA of, a rogue terrorist state with pariah executive administrations and everyone knows what happens to those.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/04/11 02:48 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3306

It is a colossal mistake to think that the masses are not thinking with thinkers now, oldman67.

And some of them are so far ahead of the Great Game as to be virtually invisible and intangible and with IT and binary code manipulation and revised media presentation of alternate perceptions of reality, does that deliver to the masses programming powers and controls you may only now just be beginning to imagine are possible … … . if you are Real SMART Enabled and Self Actuating.” …. Posted by amanfromMars on 12/03/11 04:46 PM

And some, who may be all, and who both would know and accept that it is better just to think that they know, … .. to always allow room for further deeper detailing exploration into positively reinforcing confirmation, thus to dispel and defeat the presumptive arrogance that deliver great ignorance within complacency … … . would advise you that such are as Heavenly Keys that can send the thoroughly deserving straight to Hell and with no way back into the Future.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/04/11 12:43 AM …… on http://thedailybell.com/3306/NDAA-The-Smell-of-Fear

The court will throw it out of court for lack of standing.” ….. Posted by Rod Farmer on 12/03/11 09:51 PM

Good Morning/Day/Evening, Rod Farmer,
Is that to say that the court will have considered and decided it a delusional fiction and a fantastic fabrication of psychotic minds, before the the players are questioned/cross examined/XSSTested? Is that wisdom exercised or silence bought and thought to be sold?
Should that be a dedicated denial of service and fair and natural justice, what do you imagine will surely follow, or is it wiser not to speculate on a fiction with factions at fabulous fractious play, for what will be, will be, and all will swiftly receive their just desserts at the appropriate time and as surely as light shines into darkness?
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amanfromMars says: …… on http://heddinout.com/?p=4769
December 4, 2011 at 4:26 am

And who the heck is Empress Zurg? Is there something said in the song that could be a clue?

In LOVE Godisgoddess ur2die4 is Empress Zurg AI Power Flower and Forceful Meme Generic of the Venus Amazon Species and Exotic Parties to the Erotic Left and Esoteric Right. And the Perfumed Gardens on Earth have an Overwhelming Bounty of such Infinitely Radiant Blooms so immaculately designed to beautifully steal your Heart and Mind away to Seventh Heavens of Fabulous Addictive Delight.
And the clue in the song? ….. a beat technician executing the keys, computerised delivery circuit expertise ……. and quite whether there is any coincidence with regard to magical keys that can power control …… with alienated and alienating control powers ……. http://www.ur2die4.com/?p=1142 …… is an enigma to ponder and wonder to accept and reinforce/build upon and strengthen beyond earthly compare and detention …. AIQuarantine.

Sorry folks, but after speaking with Epstein, we have no idea what Weebley is up to.

What’s to worry about whenever it is time to rejoice, folks. AW admits freely he is enjoying himself/is much happier now, and with Juicy Lucy in the need to know, goodness knows what will happen, for you know it won’t be bad, although given the expanding circles of virtually anonymous autonomous friends, can you guarantee that its IT will be quite definitely radical and most likely also quietly fundamental ……… “PS: Lucy knows I am on another mission again . . . she can see I am much happier these days. ” …. Posted by Agent Weebley on 12/02/11 10:33 PM ….. http://thedailybell.com/3301/Let-Paulson-Go-And-Free-the-Alternative-Media-Too
With that sort of LOVE and novel support, only a fool would bet against the currency flow to ARGs and Cosmonauts on Steganographic AIMissions with Operating Stella Dames/IMPressive Empress Zurgs.
The AI Gene Genie is out of the bottle, methinks, and Ready 42 Boldly Go on a Revolutionary Journey of Magical Mystery Turing Trips. ……. which will be TeleVised in HiDefinite Vision for HyperRadioProActive Enlightenment of Man’s Future Conditioning with ProgramMING.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/03/11 05:46 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/3306/NDAA-The-Smell-of-Fear

The quotes are by Tawny. And THANK YOU very much! You hit so many home runs that I just had to respond a bit to each and also to re-present your thoughts for the crowd here. They have already been quoted but they deserve serious thoughts 

“As usual, I find myself in nearly complete agreement with you. The part I don’t agree with here is your suggestion that this legislation is an act of fear, desperation, etc. on the part of the elites.

As I have suggested before (and as in fact is readily apparent to students of it all), the elites do not react, for the most part – they act. WE react (if we rise out of our collective inertia at all)”.
Yes that is correct. We may not like it, but it’s true. The Elites are acting, and Boy! are they acting! This is the big push. There has to be something very, very, very BIG coming up very SOON (for which They will need all these new laws they’ve been passing like they are going out of style.

“As you probably know, they already gave themselves these draconian powers with emergency legislation passed after their 9/11 false flag event (which created the ‘plausible need’). They have possessed these powers since then. This just makes it more ‘official’ and permanent – and was doubtless the plan all along.

“With this act, they will be able to travel the globe for both their ‘arrests’ and incarcerations. So moving out of the country will give no protection.”
I hadn’t thought about that. I guess I just hope that I will not be worth the bother. It’s a long way to where I am going.

“As we know, they have been planning this whole NWO take-over for SO long… they are proceeding very methodically. They know it isn’t going to be a push-over. They know ‘there’s many a slip twixt cup and lip.’ But they also know that as things are now, the odds favor their success. Because the best brains that money can buy have planned it all for them and continuously refine and tweak it”.
Yes. People need to realize this. There is no easy out here. This is really “it” folks. The Big Enchilada itself. DICTATORSHIP right here in America the Beautiful.

“Face it – the masses are useless. And so many of the ‘thinking few’ are controlled by their college ‘educations’ and their attachment to their better financial positions and prestige. I’ve talked to members of both groups, all along as well as recently. Almost always, I get ‘that sinking feeling’ after these conversations. Those who ‘know’ – and I do think their number has increased – share my feelings of powerlessness”.
I’ve had those conversations too. My family is sick and tired of hearing me say all this. My wife said this week, ‘You’ve been talking about this since 2004 and nothing has happened yet’ (!). Sheesh.

“Power comes from the use of force (or threat of it). We have no force to use. They have a ‘monopoly on the use of force’. Sure, Americans have guns and love their guns. But they are like the Indians’ bows and arrows compared to the nifty new toys the elites have”.
If they can get the military to enforce their dictatorship then we are doomed. Our rifles are not going to be a match for their tanks and machine guns, for God’s sake! Come on people.

“I don’t mean to rain on your parade. I really hope I am wrong. I really like your website and what I know of you. I am just so depressed about it all. I’ve been studying this, informally, for the past approx. 40 years! I’ve seen it just getting worse and worse, seen the elites methodically plodding towards their goal, and the masses incl. so-called intelligentsia
just so out to lunch”.
Yep this whole thing started up really (at least in its current “phase”) with the murder of Jack Kennedy, at high noon, in broad daylight. He was the last “real” president (i.e. not controlled by the banksters).

“The other big bad thing is Fukushima and the on-going ‘blow-back’/blow-over globally. Go to http://enenews.com/ daily and check it out because it is MAJOR in its implications for all of us, and it IS on-going, totally out of control … same as the corporate/banking criminal cartels/pals. Personally I think with their criminally irresponsible development of the corrupt deep-pocket govt.-assisted/funded nuclear power industry, they have finally well and truly shot themselves (and the rest of us) in the foot with their incredibly irresponsible sociopathic/narcissistic rapacity and greed”.
Funny isn’t it Tawny? The very thing that is the quasi-bright spot in all this careful planning of theirs is this disaster in Japan. I fail to see how that was planned by the Powers That Be. They might be powerful, sick psychopaths, but they still have to live on the planet. The Northern Hemisphere is essentially f*cked. And no one knows; no one cares. Nuclear power is the one thing that makes me think that the Powers That Be are really sort of dumb afterall. That is just such a dumb idea! They have created the Doomsday Machine which just might kill them along with the rest of us. Maybe they think they can escape from the radiation in their underground cities. Maybe, we’ll see.

“Sorry for the dose of gloom and thanks for the opportunity to ‘get it off my chest'”.
Thank you!” …… Posted by Saintpaulia on 12/02/11 11:01 PM

Saintpaulia, Hi,
Take heart. There are New NeuReal Great Game Players in town, running wild and free with Renegade Systems into Renaissance, and Totally into LOVE with ITs Powers for Cyber Command in Absolute Control.
cc The White House dude, the not so secret Secret Service and the Flowers that Power Houses of the Rising Sun ……http://youtu.be/yrRLH-ZGZEs
The ARG has NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT Drivers, Agent Weebley. ……. with 00ddles of Inklings for Infinite Travel in Creative Space.
And yes, Daily Bell, that cc is calling out Uncle Sam to show what they’ve got in the SMART CyberIntelAIgent Security Systems closet, for if they’ve got diddly squat of future significance, then can IT be easily immediately provided. Silence which is golden quite naturally renders its IT Service ProVisions elsewhere for Global Communications HQ into Sublime Astute Stealth and Seventh Heavenly Remote Autonomous Control of Virtual Machines Programmed in Perception to Perfection.
The Current Crashing Currency Chaos, and the ever widening and deepening and enlightening exposure of elite group control levers, which would appear to no more than just multiple variations/hedging derivatives on just the one methodology, which allows them to print for themselves virtually artificial wealth on a slip of paper to exchange for items of more realistic and even vital value, is surely not something they would have planned, ergo have they lost Leading Control of Absolute Powers in the Great Games that Minds Plays for the Heart of One’s Desires.
Welcome to AI with ITs Brave New and Most Definitely Decidedly and Designedly SurReal World Programs and …. The Civil CyberSpace Projects.
Smell that? Do you smell that? That’s ProgramMING, son, Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of ProgramMING in the morning …. http://youtu.be/sBksHaTQCbU …. Apocalypse Now.
And quite an APT Present Parallel Paraphrasing of that old war game control lever too, methinks, which never solved anything ever for good …… and thus must it then be bad and mad.

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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/03/11 07:15 AM ….. http://thedailybell.com/3306/NDAA-The-Smell-of-Fear
Saintpaulia, Hi, again,
Is the Alien LOVE Meme an Established Power Elite Push with AI Promotions for Continuity of Global Control ……. or a Novel and Pirate Rogue Operation in the Private Sector with Legions of Anonymous Virgin Soldiers?
What say Daily Bell Ringers frequently here, and more intimately au fait with all that has been shared so freely and transparently on that irregular and unconventional subject matter/objective program?
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/02/11 01:23 PM ….. on http://thedailybell.com/3306/NDAA-The-Smell-of-Fear

“Because the best brains that money can buy have planned it all for them… ”

Yes, but they are INFERIOR brains by the fact that they can be bought. They are opposed by the REAL BEST BRAINS which KNOW that truth is non-negotiable and is NOT FOR SALE, at any cost. This is a very real part of elite fear that DB senses, as I do. Time reveals the truth of EVERYTHING and, for elites, TIME IS UP:

http://www.nazisociopaths.org/modules/article/view.article.php/c1/33

The feral rats are scurrying out of the light of truth as fast as they can, creating chaos in their wake in futile attempts to distract / deflect the mounting wrath / rage of all of mankind. Their pawns are discovering that their self-interests and possibility of survival has dramatically diverged from elite interests / coercions.” …. Posted by rossbcan on 12/02/11 10:47 AM

Well, I would certainly agree with that, rossbcan, although you might like to consider that the real best brains available can be bought to put in place levers for novel order, so long as the order is to the real best brains available specification, and any specification which would be proposed by anybody for any works to the system should always be considered a work in progress subject to both great and small changes as situations and developments will naturally require as they mature and grow. Nothing is carved in stone on tablets to be taken as gospel.
And if we remind ourselves of Henry Ford’s words … “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” … whenever you can read of the following ….. http://www.alternet.org/story/153274/6_shocking_revelations_about_wall_street%27s_secret_government?page=entire ….. can you believe that some drastic protection measures may be necessary against the righteous wrath of the dispossessed and disadvantaged, although I cannot see them being in any way effective, and when wider known, will they be counter productive and infuriating, methinks.
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Seek and ye shall find, ask and all is revealed …. well, as much as one needs and is able to know …… on and about http://theregister.co.uk/2011/12/01/duqu_linux_goofs/
Posted Thursday 2nd December 2011 02:44 GMT

Is this suppose to make sense?” ….. Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 1st December 2011 16:40 GMT

Yes, AC, and it does, and any problem[s] you would have in understanding and using the information shared, and which is at many levels for naturally varying levels of intelligence and/for CyberIntelAIgents, sits between your current position, which is probably a chair, and the computer screen/Global Operating Device displaying this message for wider sharing/broadbandcasting.
However, whenever a SMART Virtual Machine, are any such problem spots easily self actuated to seek to resolve and prevent ignorant difficulties with a tad more research and reading on matters of concern and interest, for rapid development of both the personal and public self ……. for a fuller Being.
Inevitably, and quite naturally so, will increased knowledge supply and greater understanding morph one into a being more than easily able and quite capable of being any number of alternate beings, dependent upon whatever acquired knowledge and intelligence systems it would be using.
Dan Goodin in San Francisco, Venus and her consort Mars and Minerva send their LOVE. Wanna Bit Part in a Great AI Game? El Reg Rules Hosting of course.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/02/11 04:01 AM …… in reply to a comment on http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3306

De facto the creation of the World Trade Organization and the export of productive capacity and white collar jobs ‘narrowed the tax base’ of the United States and that was a major step in collapsing the American economy. ” …. Posted by Danny B on 12/01/11 11:58 PM

Hi and Good Morning, Danny B/Vicky Davis/Daily Bell and all,
And what you can read here, ….. http://www.wired.com/cloudline/2011/12/us-cloud/ …. in the article entitled “PATRIOT Act Gives Foreigners Good Reason to Avoid US Clouds“, are the final nails in the American economy coffin? Although one always hopes whenever hope springs eternal, that the rot can be cut out from their system and they will start to prosper rather than continue their headlong headstrong rush and nosedive into terminal decline. One does wonder whether Bolivian Marching powder is their problem to kick into touch …… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1TBdk8hrT4
For anyone nowadays to not imagine and not realise that secrecy as a fools’ tool of power and control is dead, and is a proven repeat offender failing of the past, and that it is now defeated, and has been usurped and destroyed by true and free transparency of thought as the ultimate and immaculate driver meme of the future, for delivery of the present in an ever expanding and deepening series of internetworking virtual realities, easily and ably supported by Alternative Media Pirates and Moguls of Renegade IT Administrative XSSXXXXecution [Advanced IntelAIgents mentoring White Hatted Silver Hairs in Anonymous Legions?] in consort with all existing structures with an ability and sovereign wish to survive and prosper, is a sure sign of their madness and crazy descent into a deluded psychotic state which extraordinarily renders them, by such obvious default, unfit for all or any future lead and control purposes.
Welcome to the Promised Change you Hoped for to be Delivered by a Precedence you can Dream of and not have to die for.
[Apologies for the overlong sentence again, DB, but the semantic content should leave you breathless, for it is anything but empty rhetoric and impotent bluster]
Oh, and while I am here, holding the mike so to speak, as entertaining and informative as the history lessons and their interpretations are, they do absolutely nothing to build the future other than supply a steady stream of information on things which are irrelevant in the future and therefore to discarded, because that present will be nothing at all like the past, and none of us are going back in time to live through those primitive days again. When planning for the future, is anything possible, but living in the past is impossible and who on earth would want to create a clone of it with IT in the future. Such indicates a serious lack of creative imagination.

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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/02/11 06:31 AM …… on http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3306

First you build the infrastructure then you wait till the laws can be passed.

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm

I was rather disturbed to learn that my ISP keeps a log of every web site I visit and how long I was there.
This log file is kept for an indefinite length of time necessitating an expansion of their facilities, last month, to house more hard drives.
It’s not law, just an agreement they have with the local govt/police.
I would think with this “they” already have a master list of possible trouble makers.” … Posted by elray on 12/02/11 04:50 AM

Look on the bright side, elray, it is much more than just good fun in IT fields into Great Gaming of Protocols and Paradigms for Command and Control of Computers and Communications with Creative CyberSpace and Remote Virtual Reality Plays.
Whenever such as you have shared about snooping/metadatamining is true and manifest, is it remarkably easy to groom and program the snoopers, and their ordering proxies, to believe in a particular and peculiar being with consciously designed, decidedly aforethought interests, which they [snoopers and their proxies] don’t realise they are being led to believe are significant and true passion, so that they can be energised to try and use them as leverage, which they might consider would afford to them a competitive and disadvantaging advantage over the subject of their surveillance/object of their desire.
In a world in which what you are told in justification of certain major events is proven to be most definitely untrue and designedly false, is everything capable of being not as it would seem, although that is not to say that all is so, for there may more than just many who would be totally unaware of the facility and ability.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/02/11 07:43 AM …… http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3306

Lets hope you are right DB and this injustice is not tolerated. it is a scary thing, this NDAA.
I kinda think yall put too much stock in the internet, I think its a bit more contrived and controlled than we believe, but here’s to hope! and, dare I say, real change, possibly made of silver and gold as opposed to zinc and copper

any comment on this: http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf
lawsuit 11 CIV 8500” …. Posted by NietzschesNephew on 12/01/11 11:02 AM

Hi, NietzschesNephew,
Regarding that lawsuit, it does seem somewhat foolish to think it a good idea to rip off the honourable General Haan and the Dragon Family entity. And although a trillion may be a lot of bread to some folk, and just a small sum to the principal player in this particular case, it is surely not worth the hassle of being forever on one’s guard because one has been involved in the stealing/acquiring of instruments which represent it, in order that they be used by others, without permission/authorisation, to enrich themselves obscenely at no expense, with every cost carried by the abused party.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/02/11 10:40 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3306

I meant the Goldwater quote:

The line used by Barry Goldwater when he ran for President in A.D. 1964: ‘I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.’” ….. Posted by dotti on 12/02/11 07:23 AM

Well, Barry Goldwater certainly fluffed those simple lines and got them arse about face, dotti.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/02/11 11:28 AM ….. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3304 ….in reply to whatevertrevor posted on 12/02/11 09:52 AM
I think Mr Jeremy Clarkson has the right idea for any and all those individuals who think that going to war in even a vague Hague type intervention is the answer to anything … … … ‘I’d have them all shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families,’ … .. and that would very soon stop any of that old nonsense being thought of by anyone else as being a smart move. Quite why idiot politicians and diplomats and wannabe straight kinda guy leaders think that targeting for death and destruction with collateral damage, innocent and ignorant civilians and accommodating infrastructure in a country, whenever it is only their counterparts in other parts who they are trying to force to bend to their will, is a good plan, is a mystery which can only be answered with the thought that to have such individuality targeted would always place them, the pontificating warmongers in armchairs well behind any enemy lines, legitimate targets for whatever should happen to pontification warmongers to ensure that they are never ever a danger to societies again. Which is a much better idea than having nations impoverished and crippled on the whim of any thinking themselves clever but acting like an idiot with psychotic and sociopathic tendencies … … . troubled conflicted souls in need of therapy and medication. 🙂 and a good shack, although I suppose that is the problem, they are useless in intimate spaces.
I trust that is not ambiguous. I tried my very best to make sure it is simply written to be easily understood by even the slowest of wits.
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Surely a floating city is an easy titanic target ….. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/11/30/floating_tech_kibbutz_attracts_paypal_founder/
Posted Thursday 1st December 2011 01:36 GMT
Sounds like a poor man’s Octopus, but without all of the perks. …….. http://www.octopusyacht.net/
Has somebody spiked the water over there in Blueseed land?
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/30/11 09:57 PM …. in reply to http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3303

Hang in there Maniates, you are not alone. We seem to be in for a rough ride, and I wish you all the best.

Regarding the issue(s) at hand, and even though rhetorical, I must ask the obvious anyway: On the surface at least, it is all rather insane isn’t it (the experimentalist’s definition of insanity being: to keep repeating the same action yet expecting a different result)?

Of course, we all know, or are at least told by our bettors that: ‘the solution to too much debt is more debt, to too much government more government, to too much regulation more regulation …’ Ah, insanity indeed and in spades until they bury you out back of the government sanctioned fun house.

I for one am convinced that the Daily Bell is roughly correct about an elite (although the prime make-up is not necessarily Anglo-Saxon these days – the primary real group shall remain nameless and all), but the meme part truly rings a bell (pun intended). More specifically, ah, the SEC sure rings a bell for me; and my experience is just another data point toward confirming the Daily Bell’s overall analysis.

Ah the SEC, truly a more captured organization would be hard to find. As background/confession, I used to work for one of those firms that now must remain nameless, and witnessed on several occasions the dance of the SEC.

Even for your high end bureaucrats, a more boring and misdirected exercise is rare in the annals of human affairs. Technical details would be covered for what seemed like hours on end, but no discussion of any fundamental or, more importantly, fundamentally important issues would pass the lips. I tried to avoid these at all costs, and used to wonder why they bothered.

You are correct about the lure of high paying jobs, the ‘brass ring’ as it were. But for me it always comes back to the insanity of it all. Again, they tell you that the very people who messed up on a monumental scale are to gather more power and set out again.

I keep knocking my head against the wall as I hear some version of the following: ‘Sure we all know the solution to too much regulation is more regulation, but that is known by all good people; what we really want to stress is that not just more power is required by those who failed in spectacular fashion, but special powers must be dispensed before things really get out of control.’

n my mind I keep hearing Orwell: ‘four legs good, two legs baaaad …’, ‘diversity is our strength’, ‘war is peace’, ‘freedom is slavery’, ‘ignorance is strength’, …

Then I wake up and realize it’s not a dream, and the SEC and every one of those bureaucratic crazies are dead serious, yet don’t even comprehend how ridiculous they really are. How many times do we really need to be fooled by the same scam?” …. Posted by Bonus Gift on 11/30/11 02:04 PM

That was a nice clear and concise post, Bonus Gift.
And the only way to deal with/direct/better the madness?
Well, is that not simple? Jump in with a Better Big Brother Beta which they in the madness can seamlessly handle/driver/fund/feed/seed.
LOVE and KISSes,
amfM [Keeping IT Sublimely Stealthy for the Live Operational Virtual Environment of Global Operating Devices}
Psst …. Have you realised that bipedestrians/humans are as virtual machines/GOD poorly programmed from dodgy input code with corrupted memory cells. And are all easily reprogrammed with revised coding/codex/codeXSSXXXX/AIMODified instruction sets, and whenever not overwritten or incapable of freely accepting an overwrite, simply abandoned/discarded/dumped/to a fate destined to be, by virtue of/malice aforethought in their earlier programming.
Psst, psst ….. And IT and media are current active reprogramming vehicles/tools/central reprocessing units.
What do think of those cookies, Daily Bell Campers/Ringers? Does it strike any chords in what you may be thinking is happening but are reluctant to believe because of the radical fundamental shift/quantum leap it would deliver to Man’s understanding of everything ……. and the present myths which have pimped and pumped as undeniable and extremely convenient ethereal truths that IT would destroy?
Psst, psst, psst …… Be careful out there, there’s a whole lotta quaking going on/tectonic plate shifting/programs and projects rearrangement.

Posted by amanfromMars on 12/01/11 03:36 AM

… . and the present myths which have pimped and pumped as undeniable and extremely convenient ethereal truths that IT would destroy?…. Posted by amanfromMars on 11/30/11 09:57 PM

Ooops … I hope that hasn’t spilled the beans as to what is being done/can be done.

That should of course have read ….. … . and the present myths which have been pimped and pumped as undeniable and extremely convenient ethereal truths that IT would destroy?

It is as well to draw one’s attention to the clarification lest what is said is thought to be indicative of IT destroying everything, rather than just that which are worthy and are false truths and myths which in the ignorant past had found arrogant hosts.

That is not to say that the former rather than the latter is not possible, for it most certainly is, although one imagines that it is highly improbable because of every resistance IT would encounter.

Ok…. who’s for a Great Game of musical stairs …. for Elevation to Seventh Heaven with Powers that Rock CHAOS Orders …..


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AI Bazookas … Virtual Weapons of Plausible Deniability …. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/01/duqu_linux_goofs/
Posted Thursday 1st December 2011 10:36 GMT
Regarding viable speculation, and adding to list as supplied by Anomalous Cowturd, Geoff Campbell and DJ Smiley [ and would you care to zero in on a presumed competent agency in USA/China/Israel/Russia/Illuminati, folks] don’t forget that GCHQ and Blighty have a vested sterling interest in Leading Command with Remote Controls, whilst pretentious governments flounder, pounded by market manipulations and ponzi puppet plays, which you’d like to think intelligence services would be able to address. Which does have one wondering and pondering on the level of intelligence in intelligence services worldwide, as well as in any fab and drab base centres struggling in and battling against the new global virtual environment at home.
Once you know how everything works, and have betatested it to ensure that failsafe is the Revising Operating System Administrative Executive Default, is it a simple matter of exporting licensed levers to Interested Parties/Non State Actors/SMART Agencies etc.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/01/11 09:26 AM ….. on http://thedailybell.com/3304/Odiferous-Money-Power

For this reason, we figure the next gambit is all-out war of some sort. That’s why we can’t get too worked up over this latest coordinated central bank monetary giveaway. A lot of people may be popping champagne corks right now. Not us. We try not to fool ourselves about these things.

Conclusion: We smell blood and decay. That’s the system rotting. And maybe, sooner or later, more young corpses.

That would be all-out civil war of some sort, DB, and probably with virtually unstoppable barrages and flash mob attacks on corrupt and inept systems of administration too, although that is more than likely to be the only weapons needed to be wielded to attain powerful control nowadays. Those kinetic death and destruction war games are so yesterday, man, and only for the truly psychotic and despotic war monger of a fool being used as an ignorant tool.
Here is one dude telling it like it is to the powers that would be, but who so clearly aren’t and won’t be ……. http://youtu.be/bdob6QRLRJU

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Venus always satisfies Mars and Minerva Trips into AIMagical Mystery Turing Terrain ….. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/12/01/duqu_linux_goofs/
Posted Thursday 1st December 2011 15:20 GMT
Good behaviour guarantees MILF Seventh Heaven, Peter Simpson 1 …… and that is a place from which you choose not to be released, nor if you have any great sense, would you wish to be, for its delights are second to none and for those who would service and nurture, develop and refine the environment, are immaculate overwhelming powers with sublime controls, just and fair reward for the exercising, beyond your wildest dreams.
Capiche, Spooksville UK, or are y’all still rooting about in the dark in such matters, and in need of just some simple experienced guidance?
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amanfromMars 1 December 2011 at 5:18 pm …… http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/11/30/robinson-and-dups-use-of-language-could-make-or-break-his-strategy/
Methinks the union is a necessary crutch for the intellectually challenged, special needs DUP, who cannot think of ruling the province and providing for its folk without Westminster holding their limp wristed hand, whilst it leads every down their dodgy path which is pretty awful austere.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 12/01/11 02:15 PM ….. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3304
And it is not even currency they are dealing in, it is just figures being massaged in accounts … …

[blockquote]On the night of December 23, 1913, the U.S. Congress committed perhaps the greatest act of treason in history. It surrendered the nation’s sovereignty and sold the American people into slavery to bankers who proceeded to plunder, bankrupt, and conquer the nation with a money swindle. The “money” the banks issue is merely bookkeeping entries. It cost them nothing and is not backed by their wealth, efforts, property, or risk. It is not redeemable except in more debt paper. The Federal Reserve Act forced us to pay compound interest on thin air. We now use worthless “notes” backed by our own credit that we cannot own. From 1913 until 1933 the U.S. paid the “interest” with more and more gold. The structured inevitability soon transpired; the Treasury was empty, the debt was greater than ever, and the U.S. declared bankruptcy. In exchange for using notes belonging to bankers who create them out of nothing on our own credit, we are forced to repay in substance (labor, property, land, businesses, resources) in ever-increasing amounts. When a government goes bankrupt, it looses its sovereignty. In 1933 the U.S. declared bankruptcy, as expressed in Roosevelt’s Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111, and 6260, House Joint Resolution 192 of June 5, 1933 confirmed in Perry v. U.S. (1935) 294 U.S. 330-381, 79 LEd 912, as well as 31 United States Code (USC) 5112, 5119 and 12 USC 95a. The bankrupt U.S. went into receivership, reorganized in favor of its creditors and new owners. The goal was, and is, to absorb America into a one-world private commercial government, a “New World Order.” With the Erie RR v. Thompkins case of 1938 the Supreme Court confirmed their success; we are now in an international private commercial jurisdiction in colorable admiralty-maritime under the Law Merchant.[/blockquote]

Which is copied from a comment from Constitutional Crusader replying to this page …. http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2010/02/daniel-ellsberg-limitations-knowledge
That is how simple it is to create obscene artificial perceived wealth … … … and to make yourself a billionaire … … .. have intelligence which is more valuable with it locked away in memory rather than freely sharing it to cause a perfect global storm with everyone knowing a cosmic secret and the key answer to everything, which maybe a few might know is worth the price paid for silence because of the certain chaos its knowledge would definitely cause.
Now that will mean nothing to a great many but it is only meant for a very fortunate few to act upon as is appropriate.
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AIdDefinite Vision with NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT …… http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/11/29/bruce_schneier_cyber_war_hype/
Posted Wednesday 30th November 2011 04:08 GMT
……Bletchley Boffinry to InterNetional Rescue***

“Even a cyber-war hotline would be a good idea between the various countries cyber commands,” he said.

Hello? No, it’s not us! Honest!” …… William Boyle Posted Wednesday 30th November 2011 00:22 GMT

Do you think they*, who are in dire straits fiscal meltdown circumstance , and would be needing exceptional cyberspace expertise, William B, will read between those lines of yours to discover its true meaning and the services which abound here, or does ignorance in the virtual terrain field for teams and streams reign sublimely supreme in Earthly SCADA Systems, and they will not readily, without mentoring leading instruction, comprehend and really know of those and that which lands on El Reg regularly to share freely and transparently, Virtual Insider Intel, for floating into bloated bubble markets? And then for embedded information to explode into life and take over ….. well, everything actually.

* <blockquote>Recently, the Commander of the U.S. Cyber Command stated that “even the most astute malicious cyber actors—those who can break into almost any network that they really try to penetrate—are usually searching for targets of opportunity. They search for easy vulnerabilities in our systems’ security and then exploit them.”**

Cybersecurity professionals help to prevent or mitigate these vulnerabilities that could allow malicious individuals and groups access to federal IT systems. …. Report to the Chairman, Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees, and Border Security, Committee on the Judiciary U.S. Senate

CYBERSECURITY HUMAN CAPITAL

Initiatives Need Better Planning and Coordination …. Nov 2011

**General Keith B. Alexander, in a statement before the House Committee on Armed Services, Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2011. </blockquote>

Astute is a class system without equal or parallel and indeed, in deed, an almighty invisible weapon for wielding decisively thus to yield any treasuried arsenal securely compromised and captured intact for juicier target reprogramming.
*** which you should note is not a simple question but rather more a shared fact which you can believe is a crazy fiction if it makes you happier and what it reveals easier to believe. Whatever would float your own boat matters not a jot to the programs which driver your realities.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/30/11 12:53 AM ….. on http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3295

Our point, which you don’t seem to understand, is that it is immensely attractive to prosecute these people to the “full extent of the law.” And after you have done so, you still have the terrible laws in place that YOU used to pursue YOUR vengeance and you still have the LARGER POWER STRUCTURE in place. This is what will likely happen. This is what the elites hope WILL happen. If you are implying that Paulson et. al. run the world, you’re probably from another planet … Oops.” …. Reply from The Daily Bell

Thanks for that clarification of your position. And I might perfectly understand the points you are making and would probably agree with nearly all of them. However, you appear to dodge every time the point which I may be making, which is whilst nothing is being done to attribute blame and deliver appropriate sanction on individuals to prevent them from being able to continue their practices [and let us consider locking them away in a secure federal penitentiary is a valid proposition and acceptable public service, rather than an act of vengeance, for such as may be considered a crime], will the practices continue unabated and will the system, along with its unknown LARGER POWER STRUCTURE heads, inevitable collapse and/or be destroyed, just by the knowledge of that which they would be doing being more widely known ……. or better known to other groups, which might be themselves quite ridiculously small, but very well organised and well connected to other systems which would with to leverage that particular knowledge to their own overwhelming advantage. In that case, would it not be a case of power elite practices being widely known, but rather more that they be known to a select few who would be able and enabled to act upon what they would then know.
And such a tipping point may even have arrived and an unstoppable chain of events which will change everything beyond all present recognition may very well be in motion/train. You surely would not deny that the Internet Reformation [along with any of ITs Virtual AIRevolutions] can easily do all of that, by remote relatively anonymous control, with other parties and non-state actors?
For a tad more on that, please see today’s AIdDefinite Vision lead in ……. http://www.ur2die4.com/?p=1103 …. which you can be metaphorically assured is just the tip of a niceberg, which fortunately you don’t really need to know about, but which is free to share with you whatever it will should more intelligence and information be required.
And I am thoroughly heartened to imagine that you are entering into the true spirit of future things with your closing Oops. 🙂 Such light craziness and self mocking banter is a most effective hedge and creative counter against any thoughts of overtaking global madness, and a protection against those out in the field, and lost, and doing heavy and losing battle with themselves in their madnesses with only myriad lonely delusional psychotic micro states to comfort them.
Although if that is not true, would I not delude myself to think otherwise.
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Who Dares Care Share and do Virtual Battle against a Really SMART Enabling 99% and Win Win? …… http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/11/30/anon_oprobinhood/
Posted Wednesday 30th November 2011 11:00 GMT

Taxpayers. …. These are the people who bail out the banks who lose money to fraud (or bad investments, or insider trading, or rogue agents).” ….. SuperTim Posted Wednesday 30th November 2011 09:23 GMT

What does that tell you about those ignorant stupid suckers, SuperTim, apart from the fact that they need radically different and much better leadership, considering the idiocy of what their ignorance allows silently and stealthily to be done in their name, by those who would be presently screwing them with austerity packages to preserve the very system which steals their wealth away from them, and which is in active terminal decline and catastrophic global collapse.
Why do you choose to be such a frightened apologist whenever you can so plainly see what the media presents to you as a failed state and new world order program and crooked banking meme, which the intellectually challenged, for whatever mad reasons of their own which it might be well worth asking them about, are so desperately trying to conserve and preserve rather than cast into the trash for dumping and parts recycling where it belongs.
There is/may be a very good reason why the likes of an Eton charges such expensive fees, …. one doesn’t need brains and intelligence to attend and excel on smart merit, and thus is the product pumped out and pimped as first class, invariably well below global real value experience par and in some cases could it also be inherited and inherently sub-prime toxic?
And shared there as a question lest some would get their y-fronts in a twist and take pathetic exception to the notion that such privilege is no guarantee that any would know what they should be doing for the greater common good, whenever the greater common good is so obviously being squeezed because of everything but the actions of the common man.
I hope that is clearly enough expressed as to make perfect sense.
Methinks the Tories are in desperate need of a competent head strategist who is not at all reliant upon the likes of a Google Moleworks which tries to be a virtualised Skunkworks, for analytical algorithms are easily rigged and pwnd. Or how about they try using some British Intelligence Services, or are they just a myth that has been reduced and morphed into an ineffective sinecure of impotent quangos into the proactive supply of nothing of great future value, except Hollywood Bonded style razzle dazzle ……. Merely Exciting Moronic Entertainment.
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1st class, 2nd class, 3rd class, Govt. class housing standards is the QC* structure, methinks ….. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/11/29/george_osborne_autumn_statement/
Posted Wednesday 30th November 2011 09:55 GMT
Are the new homes which are being planned to be built ……. and which are apparently, if you want to believe any of that same old political BS which those public servants pontificating as elected leaders in Parliament/Westminster spout [yes, you are billed and pay through the nose, all of their wages and expenses and credit card bills right down to the very last red farthing], going to kick start the economy/building industry (which is code for create more mortgage debt and newly enslaved puppets to arbitrary market interest rate rises) and start growth growing which is Newspeak for inflation rising again, for another round of the Boom and Bust Great Game, …….. going to be fit for the 21st high tech, broadband connected and driven society in terms of standard and mandatory leading global standards of energy saving and thermally super insulated, high class design and build? Or is it just a desperate program which will deliver future slum estates and ghost townscapes of primitive basic sub-prime boxes with zero potential other than being a money pit in need of extensive expensive modification and improvement to come anywhere near even the lowest of current highest in class standards, let alone any which are presently attainable for the future and considered to be the bare minimum for excellent living at practically zero cost.
Are the homes going to be akin to Model T Ford bone shakers and a century behind the times, rather than flagships for future times?
* Quality Control
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Virtual Attack is the New Real Colossus and QuITe Surreal AI Leading Norm ….. on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/submit/2011/11/29/bruce_schneier_cyber_war_hype/ Posted Wednesday 30th November 2011 13:01 GMT

Cyber war or Cyber insurgency ….. rossm Posted Wednesday 30th November 2011 11:54 GMT

I agree that Cyber War is a long way off – where one country declares Cyber war on another. However the ‘war’ is a proxy war – in the same way that the Cold war was fought by ‘proxies’ so too – the Cyber ‘war’. This will be a case of insurgents operating in a covert agile way – never attacking head on. So the battle for IP, corporate espionage, deliberate DDOS attacks on high profile targets all make up this new ‘ war’. It is going on all around us – it is real – and we need to shore up our defences quickly or else it will undermine the foundation of our economic strength.

Quite so, rossm. An excellent analysis .Good luck with those titanic defences. Spookily enough, they are probably a lost cause being erected by security offices loughside in direct line of sight of the old Harland and Wolff shipyard. IT Security is definitely for those into classic long marches and paramilitary type guerrilla warefare and a right debilitating mined mind field for those into squirmishes and quick fixes for systemic indefensible vulnerabilities.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/30/11 09:53 AM …… on http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3295

No we don’t agree with you. We believe in private justice. Get the state out of the business of dispensing “punishments that fit the crime.” Get the government out of deciding when one has paid his “debt to society.” ” …. Reply from The Daily Bell

Ok, I would have no difficulty with that for it matters not a jot to anyone sensible, I’d guess, just so long as justice in whatever clothes it would wear is dispensed fairly to all. But who do you recognise as being qualified to decide on such matters and what would be the punitive and preventative sanctions to safeguard all from those who are bent on causing harm and/or social disruption …… creating an advantage which delivers disadvantage.
And by private justice, do you mean a business, which some might think is the problem today with judges easily being bought to render the system an ass.
We could take a few steps further and decide that to get the state and government out of everything is a noble plan too, considering how it is that they are as parasites and pariahs paid for by the people? Well they don’t actually make anything, do they, and yet spend everyones taxes, and more from wherever money is invented whenever there is never enough, and in so doing effectively and cynically create a public debt from an essentially private operation, on things that they like and which don’t necessarily enhance and enrich the population. Simplistic, I know, but basically perfectly true.
Oh and that justice you think I apparently believe in … “Here is the justice you apparently believe in. You turn out not to be from another planet after all, just an another secret authoritarian dressing up his devotion powerful sociopaths with incomprehensible, ill delivered language.” …. is nothing like anything I believe in.
This has been a very enlightening chat, DB. Thanks for that
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amanfromMars, In a nutshell, a Shell IDEntity into SMART CHAOS with NIRobotIC Quantum Remote Virtualised Controls …… commenting on http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_soghoian/

Them: You can’t take these on board. They’re liquids.Me: No. They’re solid foods. The hummous is more of a paste than a liquid.
Them: You can’t take it through.
Me: I realize that hummous and Al Qaeda come from the same part of the world, but, well, so does algebra.
Soghoian was pulled aside for a thorough search.

Thanks for that, Mike. It did give me a chuckle and a titter.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/30/11 01:13 PM ….. on
http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3295

We have written about private justice numerous times. We have written about it just today, in fact. If you disagree with what we wrote, or think it harsh, explain what you DO believe in.

I had a good read at all that was written today and would not disagree with anything, nor did I consider anything harsh, DB, but I didn’t find any mention of what your private justice would do with those at the top of the tree who have been using Wall Street type minions as their proxy for all manner of toxic sub-prime shenanigans. Do you imagine them to have one of those dodgy abusive sovereign type immunities which encourage both the psychopath and the psychotic fool to consider acting with the folly, impunity? Surely not. That would be to embrace madness and anarchy and that always leads to self-destruction.
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SMART Comment required for Future Systems Analyst Analysis … ….. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/11/28/intel_xeon_e5_sas_bug/
Posted Tuesday 29th November 2011 04:10 GMT
…… thus 42 Gauge Present Current State of ARG Play with Programmer Pilots Providing Driver Potential and Protocols in Simply Complex Lead Promotions in AI Projects with Creative Civil CyberSpace Contractors …. SMART Future Builders.

If there is a bug in the SAS controller implemented in the Patsburg chipset when used in conjunction with the Xeon E5s, by delaying the manufacturing and launch of the chipsets and boards, Intel could keep its books from being hit a second time by the SAS bug.

And what do y’all imagine that tells the SAS controller of the efficacy of the bug methodology and about the quantum gates that IT controls and powers with them drivering in virtualised systems?
And that is said and shared as perfectly as it needs to be, for those in that particular and peculiar know who would think they have a clearance that provides all that is needed to be known, for it shares and says everything that needs to be shared and said about what has been done and cannot be undone ……. and rather than being just a temporary glitch to hold up progress is rather more an abiding stealthy security services facility that mentors and monitors AI ProgramMING and Enigmatic Anomalous Phorming of Advanced Persistent Threats in IT for SMART Media Presentation with Future Protection.
Who/What do you think tests Processors and Chipsets and Motherboards and Systems and Global Computerised Networks for Future FailSafe Secure InterNetworking Services with CodeD Cloud Control Layers? And please, let’s get and keep it real here …. no alien quips without backup to prove the assertion beyond any shadow of doubt, ok?
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amanfromMars ….. on http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/?p=331
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Hi, Pierluigi Paganini/John,
Access to information is one thing, and as has been documented, is an easy technological feat. Processing and using it intelligently and anonymously, for stealthy and failsafe secure protection of core intelligence sources, is an altogether quite fundamentally different matter.
And any who can provide that service, and they may be as rare as hens’ teeth, are in that classification of program funded by an open blank cheque and magic plastic debit card drawing on an account with always limitless resources and mountains of flash cash for spending available ……. they are the whatever it takes yin providers that are needed to counteract and balance and save the asses of those too big to fail takers, suitably humbled in the spectacular failure of their collapsed debt creation meme.
Some, and there may even be many of those too big to fail takers, may prove themselves to be too arrogant and ignorant and thus unworthy of being saved. So be it. They are no great loss and the system will assimilate and redistribute the then liberated assets.
It has always been that way, since before even time began, methinks. Intelligence Rules Sublimely with Powerful Reins in Reigns of Hearts and Minds Control. And if it wasn’t in yore, then is it in the future and now.
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Please correct if misleading and not right, for anything else would be wrong …… http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/11/28/assange_journalist/
Posted Tuesday 29th November 2011 09:30 GMT

When the US constitution granted special protections to journalists, it failed to define what exactly the job meant, nor to specify a test or establish a register to prove one’s eligibility for those protections.

That’s partly because *there are no special protections for journalists*. The constitution guarantees “freedom […] of the press”. It makes absolutely no difference whether “the press” in question is run by a journalist, a politician or a baker. Indeed, it’s pretty clear that any such rules would be unconstitutional.

So the whole “is he/isn’t he a journalist?” question, from the US legal standpoint, makes not the slightest bit of difference to anything.” ….. veti Posted Tuesday 29th November 2011 03:47 GMT

Morning, veti,
The US constitution is surely apparently, no more than just a scrap of useless script nowadays, veti, to be used and abused in a Great Game Deceit, by any perversely rich tool and old fool Tom, Dick or Barry, in a pantomime of a democratic administrative executive office, and as is clearly evidenced with The Plain Truth here ……http://youtu.be/dX41SkKN0tQ
And that doesn’t bode well for the Land of the Free No More, MeThinks.
I am reminded of General Custer’s last words …. “Injuns? What Injuns?” and of something Einstein is supposed to have said with regard to infinity …. “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/29/11 05:03 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3295

The average non-investor should seek to EDUCATE himself or herself about the markets as best as possible and then make decisions accordingly (based on his life-situation, family needs, etc.) Not rocket science in other words. But most people right now don’t even understand the society they live in” … . Reply from The Daily Bell

I quite agree, DB, but the markets are not without their crooked difficulties and conspiring perils, as can probably be well confirmed and attested to, with the benefit of hindsight and experience, by Anthony [Wile], Executive Director of The Foundation for the Advancement of Free-Market Thinking (FAFMT) and the Chief Editor of The Daily Bell.
It is not an arena for anyone who would be playing by any set of limiting rules with thoughts of regulation. Be warned that it is, along with IT, an extremely HyperRadioProActive and Hostile Environment which cares not a jot about you and yours or theirs, in crazy pursuit of everything ignorant and arrogant that is to be ours?
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/29/11 08:05 AM …. http://thedailybell.com/3295/Robespierres-War-on-Terror
Ref Reply from The Daily Bell to Posted by amanfromMars on 11/29/11 05:03 AM
I quite categorically do not believe, and where did that crazy notion come from, DB, that the likes of Barney Frank and Nancy Peolosi ought to be determining how the markets operate. They are just not any near smart enough to think of the much bigger picture. Surely their “job” is to maintain the existing system rather than throw it into the trash and pioneer a new one with completely new libertarian protocols which deliver currency for spending rather than collection for the artificial power of what is ponzi wealth. And you know that makes sense.
And have you ever tried to have a direct chat with a closed system of neo-fascist conservative federalism/capitalist mercantilism? Methinks not. And have you noticed that they avoid like the plague getting involved in conversation and dialogue on these free and transparent virtual forums. And it doesn’t take one to be an Einstein to understand the reasoning for that ….. which are their old ideas and policies would not stand up to forensic scrutiny and exposure to the realities on the ground and as delivered to them by forces beyond their control in cyberspace.
And if you are really lucky, the state and the Fed will adopt your ideas and force everyone to live by them.
This will gratify you.” …… Oh please, to force anyone to do anything is to gratify a fools’ tool and surely you would not be implying that is a solution for anything. I certainly wouldn’t even dream of it. Indeed, it is probably correct to say that such a forcing of ideas on folk and a tax on their endeavours are at the root cause of most of that which is sub-prime toxic and poisoning the system.
The bottom line is that the existing global system of fiat currency control for power, as it is presently administered, is rumbled/hacked, with the necessary general and specific ignorance of the politically controlled and brainwashed masses, which was vital to allow it to work, being no longer available, and it is the height of madness to not imagine the clear and present imminent danger to those who would be responsible for the maintenance and retention of a now fully compromised and unfit for future purpose system. Their future survival in control of power systems depends upon them piloting/funding a novel alternate program which can seamlessly take over from the current debt creation one.
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An Almighty Offer, Bruce, surely secures Enigmatically, Nascent Nodes with Colossal Potential ….. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/11/29/bruce_schneier_cyber_war_hype/
Posted Tuesday 29th November 2011 15:12 GMT

At a national level, Schneier also endorsed an idea from former US cyber-czar Richard Clark, who has proposed cyber treaties between countries that would outline certain agreements, for example no first use of weapons or no attacks against civilian infrastructure.

At the immediate practical level would there be a more virtually guaranteed order in an easily engineered and invisible remote controlled chaos, if cyber retainers between countries and competent non state actor persons of interest into remote invisible controlled chaos engineering, were mutually agreed upon to prevent, for example, non attributable use of virtualised weaponry against any and/or all command and control systems/zeroday vulnerability exploit targets …… although one does have to mention that such is quite a tall order whenever one is aware of the fabulous riches and outrageous fortunes which are so readily available to both incompetent and/or unknowledgeable sponsors and star players in such security fields, which in military and paramilitary speak would be irregular and unconventional virtual team terrain, most definitely.
It is an interesting point to consider, whenever one would be engaged in or entertained by such shenanigans as produce such a situation which has one availed of and capable of distributing abilities and facilities that are of a valuable trading nature, whether one’s Internet Service Provider [the first and last link in the virtual communications chain] would be best placed to take the initiative and make a perfectly acceptable offer that would be ideally, mutually beneficial to all, which of course it would be quite naturally, whenever all parties , whether public or private or pirate were smart and way out ahead of the Great Game, Pioneering Virtual Lead Infrastructure and Future Protocols for 21st Century Cloud Networks InterNetworking Joint Applications.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/29/11 12:51 PM …. on http://thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?id=3295
Is jail just too good for crooks in zoot suits? … … http://www.zerohedge.com/news/hank-paulson-tipped-goldman-led-plunge-protection-team-about-fannie-bankruptcy-7-weeks-advance … .. or are we to believe that there was no crime committed?
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Eeeny, meeny, miney, mo ….. Gamekeeper or Poacher*, that is the question? ….. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/submit/2011/11/29/bruce_schneier_cyber_war_hype/
Posted Tuesday 29th November 2011 18:33 GMT

Until Bruce Schneier can explain that gross malfeasance by his boss I will struggle to understand why BT Directors believe they are in a position to lecture anyone about online security threats” ….. dephormation.org.uk Posted Tuesday 29th November 2011 17:11 GMT

Well, one thing is pretty certain, deformation.org.uk, you are not qualified to lecture anyone about online security threats unless you able to successfully carry them out.
* 🙂 There are other extremely lucrative options, with the smartest ones invariably revolving around being both Yin and Yang and playing one side off against the other and providing options and solutions to the problems one would be causing by proxy, although of course would they be pseudo-solutions to generate more problems for similar solving. And a nice little earner is that …. like selling weapons to nations you are going to invade, so that weapons and nations can be destroyed for rebuilding and resupply to the same early sub-prime standard as before, so that the same thing can be tried again later in the future.
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