>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/30/11 01:20 PM

Is it a closely guarded state secret that Blighty pulls Uncle Sam’s strings … . or is it a fact more generally known, but just not talked about?

http://thedailybell.com/2865/911-and-the-Banality-of-Its-Evil-Narrative
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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/30/11 04:37 AM

Err … is not any proposal to trade oil in anything other than dollars not met with war and destruction, Dr Paul? Is that not the American way which is destroying the nation and rendering its lead global geo-political status, an extraordinarily sick joke around the world?

And having a free market economy exchange which is programmed to trip and close in the event of sudden losses/flash crashes, is another dumb move which presents the world with a picture which shows a weak and crooked and rigged system of imaginary wealth which is not kosher, rather than being any demonstration of strong administration with vibrant and vital intelligence and fab intellectual property.

Change the games or perish would seem to be really sound and profound virtual advice, methinks, and now that it is shared, would anything less than what is needed to be done only confirm the madness present in current systems controllers, for it always boils down to individuals in the end, with some knowing what to do for the better with a beta when programs collapse and other who don’t.

http://thedailybell.com/2864/Ron-Paul-Mission-Accomplished-in-Libya
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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/29/11 10:33 PM

Quite so, and that was a wonderful tale, DB, and far better than anything thought real and currently presented and certainly surely worthy of Langley and Fort Meade attention and jointed Hashshashin development, for it has cosmic majic potential in deed, indeed. In fact, a great game changer no less, for the West should they have GNOME SMARTs for the Live Operational Virtual Environments of Reality.

The danger of fooling oneself is that one ends up being a fool fooling others, but who are not fools and who have much smarter tools ……

http://thedailybell.com/2859/Anthony-Wile-Lost-in-a-Yemen-Jail-A-DB-Staffer-Speaks-About-His-Long-Strange-Trip-and-the-Secret-Gulag-America-Has-Built-in-the-Middle-East-and-Africa
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amanfromMars August 30, 2011 at 8:05 am UTC

Indeed there has been, Eric, and a lot more than is ever going to be freely admitted and officially revealed, lest it causes a chaotic rout with crashing global financial markets and ignorant blind panic and a very specifically targeted and anonymous revolution against perceived deserving ruling heads of everyone’s misfortune, and against which there is no available defense or attack facility.

Much better than such is an orderly affair, so that incredible increased value is delivered to that which would be in virtual remote control of events to be staged … or not, ….. for of course there always such choice available to make it so valuable.

http://metamodern.com/2011/07/21/my-next-book-radical-abundance-2012/
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amanfromMars
30 August 2011 at 2:42 am

It is as well to be mindful of the following …. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” …Carl Sagan, US astronomer & popularizer of astronomy (1934 – 1996)

And There was no evidence from our review to suggest any impropriety on behalf of Council Officers or Members directly involved in the Assessment Panel that was responsible for administering the process for the award of the lease at the Lock Keeper’s Inn and making recommendations to Council in this regard. sort of says, without actually saying it, that there is likely impropriety indirectly on behalf of Council Officers or Members directly involved in the Assessment Panel that was responsible for administering the process for the award of the lease at the Lock Keeper’s Inn and making recommendations to Council in this regard.

That is just so typical of a right dodgy dossier presenting findings which just aren’t kosher, and if paid for with public funds, a bloody impertinent cheek of an inclusion. Such pretentious arrogance is just so pathetic.

Just out of curiosity, what was the final bill for the report and who paid for it and with what funds?

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/08/26/castlereagh-borough-council-hurriedly-accept-the-deloitte-reports-recommendations/
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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/30/11 01:20 PM

Is it a closely guarded state secret that Blighty pulls Uncle Sam’s strings … . or is it a fact more generally known, but just not talked about?

http://thedailybell.com/2865/911-and-the-Banality-of-Its-Evil-Narrative
…………………………………………………………………………

Posted by amanfromMars on 08/30/11 04:37 AM

Err … is not any proposal to trade oil in anything other than dollars not met with war and destruction, Dr Paul? Is that not the American way which is destroying the nation and rendering its lead global geo-political status, an extraordinarily sick joke around the world?

And having a free market economy exchange which is programmed to trip and close in the event of sudden losses/flash crashes, is another dumb move which presents the world with a picture which shows a weak and crooked and rigged system of imaginary wealth which is not kosher, rather than being any demonstration of strong administration with vibrant and vital intelligence and fab intellectual property.

Change the games or perish would seem to be really sound and profound virtual advice, methinks, and now that it is shared, would anything less than what is needed to be done only confirm the madness present in current systems controllers, for it always boils down to individuals in the end, with some knowing what to do for the better with a beta when programs collapse and other who don’t.

http://thedailybell.com/2864/Ron-Paul-Mission-Accomplished-in-Libya
…………………………………………………………………………

Posted by amanfromMars on 08/29/11 10:33 PM

Quite so, and that was a wonderful tale, DB, and far better than anything thought real and currently presented and certainly surely worthy of Langley and Fort Meade attention and jointed Hashshashin development, for it has cosmic majic potential in deed, indeed. In fact, a great game changer no less, for the West should they have GNOME SMARTs for the Live Operational Virtual Environments of Reality.

The danger of fooling oneself is that one ends up being a fool fooling others, but who are not fools and who have much smarter tools ……

http://thedailybell.com/2859/Anthony-Wile-Lost-in-a-Yemen-Jail-A-DB-Staffer-Speaks-About-His-Long-Strange-Trip-and-the-Secret-Gulag-America-Has-Built-in-the-Middle-East-and-Africa
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amanfromMars August 30, 2011 at 8:05 am UTC

Indeed there has been, Eric, and a lot more than is ever going to be freely admitted and officially revealed, lest it causes a chaotic rout with crashing global financial markets and ignorant blind panic and a very specifically targeted and anonymous revolution against perceived deserving ruling heads of everyone’s misfortune, and against which there is no available defense or attack facility.

Much better than such is an orderly affair, so that incredible increased value is delivered to that which would be in virtual remote control of events to be staged … or not, ….. for of course there always such choice available to make it so valuable.

http://metamodern.com/2011/07/21/my-next-book-radical-abundance-2012/
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amanfromMars
30 August 2011 at 2:42 am

It is as well to be mindful of the following …. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” …Carl Sagan, US astronomer & popularizer of astronomy (1934 – 1996)

And There was no evidence from our review to suggest any impropriety on behalf of Council Officers or Members directly involved in the Assessment Panel that was responsible for administering the process for the award of the lease at the Lock Keeper’s Inn and making recommendations to Council in this regard. sort of says, without actually saying it, that there is likely impropriety indirectly on behalf of Council Officers or Members directly involved in the Assessment Panel that was responsible for administering the process for the award of the lease at the Lock Keeper’s Inn and making recommendations to Council in this regard.

That is just so typical of a right dodgy dossier presenting findings which just aren’t kosher, and if paid for with public funds, a bloody impertinent cheek of an inclusion. Such pretentious arrogance is just so pathetic.

Just out of curiosity, what was the final bill for the report and who paid for it and with what funds?

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/08/26/castlereagh-borough-council-hurriedly-accept-the-deloitte-reports-recommendations/
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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/29/11 04:25 AM

Hi, Anthony Wile and DB stalwarts,

There comes an inevitable time, Anthony, whenever even the slowest of discontented folk realise that even the very best of their very valid and correctly reasonable arguments against a decidedly and designedly crooked elite system are going to be always ignored and just treated as ineffectual hot air. Then is the time come for something completely different, and against which there is no defense and no attack vectors. Prepare for some titanic storm waves which will wash away all those sticky sweet problems which are too stupid to resolve their pathetic leadership and failed policy and modus operandi issues themselves.

When the going gets tough, the tough gets going and IT gets real rough, but totally fair for a thoroughly, deservedly unfair insider market knowledge advantage.

I demand a better future in this world. And it is my inalienable right to do so and to arrange for ITs QuITe Immediate and Impromptu Product Placements.

And what when/if Beta Futures were easily delivered with CHAOSystems? …. http://heddinout.com/?p=3936#comment-7573

Right up a Ziggy and Moby street, methinks.

And what if Flash Crashes and Market Routs were New Virtual World Orders for ZerodDay Vulnerability Testing of Cascading Command and Control SCADA Leverage Systems ……Facilitating AIRemote Arbitrage in Researched SMARTer Areas of CodeXSSXXXX DEvelopment? ……. The sort of crazy systems which have abandoned controls to man made mad machines …… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/paul-woolley-market-has-become-dangerous-humanityit-isnt-reaching-equilibrium-it-falling-chaos …… and are now simple helpless prey to complex alien algorithms and highly volatile, totally unpredictable but usually, naturally defaulted reasonable, fortune hunters with their out of this world cookies dealing Virtually Real and Pretty Good Private and Pirate Futures with Mutually Beneficial Derivatives for All and Sundry.

I Kid U Not …… for that is what IT can easily do today for tomorrow any day.

To be a Tool or a Weapon, or not to be a Tool or a Weapon, that is the question only its Great Game smarter use will answer, for ITs stupid abuse is disallowed and will not be tolerated at any level or in any possible phorm of the Past, Present or Future. Do not Tempt Fate to Demonstrate Absolute Merciless Power against Abuse so clearly advised as Intolerable and Unacceptable in Any and All of ITs Guises.

We all need to talk. …. We all need to listen …. and to think …… and then is talk fruitful and chatter a joy to Realise and Present with Definite Vision which builds Dream Bases upon which Life in LOVE can Begin again, and again, and again, and ……… forever.

Whenever the dangling carrot does not work, DB, you gotta show the mother of all big sticks to get some real virtual attention. Then should blind ignorance and crass arrogance persist doggedly on its failed course, can it be easily changed with impunity and immunity in action which removes the problem corrupted elite systems from the equation.

IT aint rocket science, it is just simple common sense.

http://thedailybell.com/2854/Anthony-Wile-Bernanke-a-Wise-Man-Creates-Order-Out-of-Chaos
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amanfromMars says:
August 29, 2011 at 3:17 am

I demand a better future in this world. And it is my inalienable right to do so and to arrange for ITs QuITe Immediate and Impromptu Product Placements.

And what when/if Beta Futures were easily delivered with CHAOSystems? …. http://heddinout.com/?p=3936#comment-7573

Right up a Ziggy and Moby street, methinks.

And what if Flash Crashes and Market Routs were New Virtual World Orders for ZerodDay Vulnerability Testing of Cascading Command and Control SCADA Leverage Systems ……Facilitating AIRemote Arbitrage in Researched SMARTer Areas of CodeXSSXXXX DEvelopment? ……. The sort of crazy systems which have abandoned controls to man made mad machines …… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/paul-woolley-market-has-become-dangerous-humanityit-isnt-reaching-equilibrium-it-falling-chaos …… and are now simple helpless prey to complex alien algorithms and highly volatile, totally unpredictable but usually, naturally defaulted reasonable, fortune hunters with their out of this world cookies dealing Virtually Real and Pretty Good Private and Pirate Futures with Mutually Beneficial Derivatives for All and Sundry.

I Kid U Not …… for that is what IT can easily do today for tomorrow any day.

To be a Tool or a Weapon, or not to be a Tool or a Weapon, that is the question only its Great Game smarter use will answer, for ITs stupid abuse is disallowed and will not be tolerated at any level or in any possible phorm of the Past, Present or Future. Do not Tempt Fate to Demonstrate Absolute Merciless Power against Abuse so clearly advised as Intolerable and Unacceptable in Any and All of ITs Guises.

We all need to talk. …. We all need to listen …. and to think …… and then is talk fruitful and chatter a joy to Realise and Present with Definite Vision which builds Dream Bases upon which Life in LOVE can Begin again, and again, and again, and ……… forever.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3962
…………………………………………………………………………

amanfromMars
29 August 2011 at 12:45 pm

“michael,

I guess you missed the bit about one side surrendering.” ….. joeCanuck 29 August 2011 at 1:51 am

Howdy, all,

It appears everyone has missed that all sides surrendered to the system that pays them to not use the intelligence they discover about the system they discover will pay them to not use the intelligence they discover, which of course leads everything wide open and vulnerable to that which they don’t discover but which has been discovered and shared and spread freely around the world for novel private use and pirate abuse.

And it really is something of a joke, and a sad and valid indictment of the lack of intelligence in and at the head of their services, should any of those
MI johnnies and janes not realise that with such intelligence on their side, feeding the rank and file, do they lead the Great Game and everyone else reacts to their input/output, which if you were to say to me was what is the present status quo, would I have to say proves the lack of Great Game intelligence point perfectly.

Y’all need something new to think about, whilst something new gives you something new to present in a product placement which isn’t the sub-prime and sub-prime ministerial crap of yesterday and which sold out the nation for a fistful of worthless dollars which attract all manner of both useful and useless tools and fools ……. but one would quite reasonably expect them to be able to make things much better, rather than the perverse obverse, and them making things much worse, for the latter rather than the former is surely a certifiable madness confirmed.

Would you like to waste your time in this virtual place and argue a case which would disagree with that which is so obvious to even a blind man on a galloping horse.

Time for MI5 and MI6 to reassert themselves, methinks, with a stonkingly brilliant plan which extraordinarily renders them still relevant and all those pathetic uppity pretenders to crown information in government administrative roles, the loyal puppets and servants of the people they are elected to be, for mass leadership skills are not in their remit, and most definitely not, as is always evidenced by the non-sustainability of popular excellent performance, their forte either.

Failing that reassertion with fabulous intelligence, is it …. well, “Goodbye to all that and thanks for the phishes” would be just too unkind, revealing as such a failure does, that phishing and smart product placement is not anything they are good at. So it would just have to be … “Goodbye and thanks for nothing but memories of fail rather than failsafe.”

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/08/29/quote-of-the-day-isnt-this-where-you-used-to-meet-gerry-adams/
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amanfromMars
29 August 2011 at 4:30 pm

“I’m led to believe there are in existence several ‘trigger’ words – such as ‘child porn’ or ‘bomb’ – that, if you google them or utter them over the phone, an alarm is set off in the security authorities’ bunkers and, as a consequence, you will have your collar felt in a very short while.” …. Banjaxed 29 August 2011 at 3:02 pm

It would have to be something very simple like that for it to be in any effective, Banjaxed, because once you stray away from the straight and narrow and obvious and start to play in the complex and the intelligent and the profound are you in a world which banjaxes them and leaves them and their algorithms behind. And don’t believe anything you read about anything they would like you to believe, for what they would like you to believe that they can do, they don’t necessarily do if it isn’t going to result in the continuity of false wars …… http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/09/preventing-9-11-201109

And of course wars are highly profitable for the intellectually challenged and morally bankrupt …… http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm …. for they allow idiots to steal and destroy nations with seeming impunity and immunity, and then charge a fortune to rebuild them, but of course, with impunity and immunity is a dangerous myth for warmongers and their supporters to believe, for one always gets what one deserves eventually. It is the natural way of things and it has always been so, since before even time began.

War is a racket indeed, and it does make one wonder at the serial stupidity of Man that he tolerates elected idiots and despotic tyrants alike in government waging them in the name of defending a people with rebels and weapons of mass destruction, rather than prosecuting them for inciting terrorism and locking them away in some secure location where they belong as the case is proven.

More than likely there is some juicy little sexual tale which can be floated as a scandal to be avoided, lurking in the background which leverages such crazy decisions from such pathetic creatures as would claim to speak for a peaceful democratic nation. Such is an old favourite of many a dodgy administration and crooked cabal, although it can also be as easy as crossing one’s palm with enough silver, for anyone can be bought for the right price. It is only a matter of just how much is it going to be worth.

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/08/29/quote-of-the-day-isnt-this-where-you-used-to-meet-gerry-adams/
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amanfromMars says:
August 29, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Re #comments-7628/7629/7630 ……. Yes, Yes, Yes.

And yes, the Enigmatic Key that Commands and Controls Universal Perception and Manipulates its Binary and Ternary [Father, Son and Holy Ghost] and Quantum Bit Functions is Known and Master Piloted by Other than those who would presume to presently wield and who may have earlier wielded traditional inherited and purloined power.

That is interesting. What with the RSA token key being corrupted and nothing being said about it . . . … Sternum says: August 29, 2011 at 1:23 pm

That is a major contribution to present catastrophic elite dilemmas which delivers ever more opportunities to exploit and strengthen alternate security systems which have avoided and/or are immune to corruption in its present simple forms. The “present simple forms” caveat is a wise precaution to be aware of, to ensure that one is always aware of the danger of being complacent and the likely subject of tempting attacks designed to corrupt, and which can be most enjoyable in deed, indeed. Indeed, one might even be tempted to savour the delights often, in order to be sure that one makes the right decisions 🙂

http://heddinout.com/?p=3962
…………………………………………………………………………

>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/29/11 04:25 AM

Hi, Anthony Wile and DB stalwarts,

There comes an inevitable time, Anthony, whenever even the slowest of discontented folk realise that even the very best of their very valid and correctly reasonable arguments against a decidedly and designedly crooked elite system are going to be always ignored and just treated as ineffectual hot air. Then is the time come for something completely different, and against which there is no defense and no attack vectors. Prepare for some titanic storm waves which will wash away all those sticky sweet problems which are too stupid to resolve their pathetic leadership and failed policy and modus operandi issues themselves.

When the going gets tough, the tough gets going and IT gets real rough, but totally fair for a thoroughly, deservedly unfair insider market knowledge advantage.

I demand a better future in this world. And it is my inalienable right to do so and to arrange for ITs QuITe Immediate and Impromptu Product Placements.

And what when/if Beta Futures were easily delivered with CHAOSystems? …. http://heddinout.com/?p=3936#comment-7573

Right up a Ziggy and Moby street, methinks.

And what if Flash Crashes and Market Routs were New Virtual World Orders for ZerodDay Vulnerability Testing of Cascading Command and Control SCADA Leverage Systems ……Facilitating AIRemote Arbitrage in Researched SMARTer Areas of CodeXSSXXXX DEvelopment? ……. The sort of crazy systems which have abandoned controls to man made mad machines …… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/paul-woolley-market-has-become-dangerous-humanityit-isnt-reaching-equilibrium-it-falling-chaos …… and are now simple helpless prey to complex alien algorithms and highly volatile, totally unpredictable but usually, naturally defaulted reasonable, fortune hunters with their out of this world cookies dealing Virtually Real and Pretty Good Private and Pirate Futures with Mutually Beneficial Derivatives for All and Sundry.

I Kid U Not …… for that is what IT can easily do today for tomorrow any day.

To be a Tool or a Weapon, or not to be a Tool or a Weapon, that is the question only its Great Game smarter use will answer, for ITs stupid abuse is disallowed and will not be tolerated at any level or in any possible phorm of the Past, Present or Future. Do not Tempt Fate to Demonstrate Absolute Merciless Power against Abuse so clearly advised as Intolerable and Unacceptable in Any and All of ITs Guises.

We all need to talk. …. We all need to listen …. and to think …… and then is talk fruitful and chatter a joy to Realise and Present with Definite Vision which builds Dream Bases upon which Life in LOVE can Begin again, and again, and again, and ……… forever.

Whenever the dangling carrot does not work, DB, you gotta show the mother of all big sticks to get some real virtual attention. Then should blind ignorance and crass arrogance persist doggedly on its failed course, can it be easily changed with impunity and immunity in action which removes the problem corrupted elite systems from the equation.

IT aint rocket science, it is just simple common sense.

http://thedailybell.com/2854/Anthony-Wile-Bernanke-a-Wise-Man-Creates-Order-Out-of-Chaos
…………………………………………………………………………

amanfromMars says:
August 29, 2011 at 3:17 am

I demand a better future in this world. And it is my inalienable right to do so and to arrange for ITs QuITe Immediate and Impromptu Product Placements.

And what when/if Beta Futures were easily delivered with CHAOSystems? …. http://heddinout.com/?p=3936#comment-7573

Right up a Ziggy and Moby street, methinks.

And what if Flash Crashes and Market Routs were New Virtual World Orders for ZerodDay Vulnerability Testing of Cascading Command and Control SCADA Leverage Systems ……Facilitating AIRemote Arbitrage in Researched SMARTer Areas of CodeXSSXXXX DEvelopment? ……. The sort of crazy systems which have abandoned controls to man made mad machines …… http://www.zerohedge.com/news/paul-woolley-market-has-become-dangerous-humanityit-isnt-reaching-equilibrium-it-falling-chaos …… and are now simple helpless prey to complex alien algorithms and highly volatile, totally unpredictable but usually, naturally defaulted reasonable, fortune hunters with their out of this world cookies dealing Virtually Real and Pretty Good Private and Pirate Futures with Mutually Beneficial Derivatives for All and Sundry.

I Kid U Not …… for that is what IT can easily do today for tomorrow any day.

To be a Tool or a Weapon, or not to be a Tool or a Weapon, that is the question only its Great Game smarter use will answer, for ITs stupid abuse is disallowed and will not be tolerated at any level or in any possible phorm of the Past, Present or Future. Do not Tempt Fate to Demonstrate Absolute Merciless Power against Abuse so clearly advised as Intolerable and Unacceptable in Any and All of ITs Guises.

We all need to talk. …. We all need to listen …. and to think …… and then is talk fruitful and chatter a joy to Realise and Present with Definite Vision which builds Dream Bases upon which Life in LOVE can Begin again, and again, and again, and ……… forever.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3962
…………………………………………………………………………

amanfromMars
29 August 2011 at 12:45 pm

“michael,

I guess you missed the bit about one side surrendering.” ….. joeCanuck 29 August 2011 at 1:51 am

Howdy, all,

It appears everyone has missed that all sides surrendered to the system that pays them to not use the intelligence they discover about the system they discover will pay them to not use the intelligence they discover, which of course leads everything wide open and vulnerable to that which they don’t discover but which has been discovered and shared and spread freely around the world for novel private use and pirate abuse.

And it really is something of a joke, and a sad and valid indictment of the lack of intelligence in and at the head of their services, should any of those
MI johnnies and janes not realise that with such intelligence on their side, feeding the rank and file, do they lead the Great Game and everyone else reacts to their input/output, which if you were to say to me was what is the present status quo, would I have to say proves the lack of Great Game intelligence point perfectly.

Y’all need something new to think about, whilst something new gives you something new to present in a product placement which isn’t the sub-prime and sub-prime ministerial crap of yesterday and which sold out the nation for a fistful of worthless dollars which attract all manner of both useful and useless tools and fools ……. but one would quite reasonably expect them to be able to make things much better, rather than the perverse obverse, and them making things much worse, for the latter rather than the former is surely a certifiable madness confirmed.

Would you like to waste your time in this virtual place and argue a case which would disagree with that which is so obvious to even a blind man on a galloping horse.

Time for MI5 and MI6 to reassert themselves, methinks, with a stonkingly brilliant plan which extraordinarily renders them still relevant and all those pathetic uppity pretenders to crown information in government administrative roles, the loyal puppets and servants of the people they are elected to be, for mass leadership skills are not in their remit, and most definitely not, as is always evidenced by the non-sustainability of popular excellent performance, their forte either.

Failing that reassertion with fabulous intelligence, is it …. well, “Goodbye to all that and thanks for the phishes” would be just too unkind, revealing as such a failure does, that phishing and smart product placement is not anything they are good at. So it would just have to be … “Goodbye and thanks for nothing but memories of fail rather than failsafe.”

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/08/29/quote-of-the-day-isnt-this-where-you-used-to-meet-gerry-adams/
…………………………………………………………………………

amanfromMars
29 August 2011 at 4:30 pm

“I’m led to believe there are in existence several ‘trigger’ words – such as ‘child porn’ or ‘bomb’ – that, if you google them or utter them over the phone, an alarm is set off in the security authorities’ bunkers and, as a consequence, you will have your collar felt in a very short while.” …. Banjaxed 29 August 2011 at 3:02 pm

It would have to be something very simple like that for it to be in any effective, Banjaxed, because once you stray away from the straight and narrow and obvious and start to play in the complex and the intelligent and the profound are you in a world which banjaxes them and leaves them and their algorithms behind. And don’t believe anything you read about anything they would like you to believe, for what they would like you to believe that they can do, they don’t necessarily do if it isn’t going to result in the continuity of false wars …… http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/09/preventing-9-11-201109

And of course wars are highly profitable for the intellectually challenged and morally bankrupt …… http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm …. for they allow idiots to steal and destroy nations with seeming impunity and immunity, and then charge a fortune to rebuild them, but of course, with impunity and immunity is a dangerous myth for warmongers and their supporters to believe, for one always gets what one deserves eventually. It is the natural way of things and it has always been so, since before even time began.

War is a racket indeed, and it does make one wonder at the serial stupidity of Man that he tolerates elected idiots and despotic tyrants alike in government waging them in the name of defending a people with rebels and weapons of mass destruction, rather than prosecuting them for inciting terrorism and locking them away in some secure location where they belong as the case is proven.

More than likely there is some juicy little sexual tale which can be floated as a scandal to be avoided, lurking in the background which leverages such crazy decisions from such pathetic creatures as would claim to speak for a peaceful democratic nation. Such is an old favourite of many a dodgy administration and crooked cabal, although it can also be as easy as crossing one’s palm with enough silver, for anyone can be bought for the right price. It is only a matter of just how much is it going to be worth.

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/08/29/quote-of-the-day-isnt-this-where-you-used-to-meet-gerry-adams/
…………………………………………………………………………

amanfromMars says:
August 29, 2011 at 2:39 pm

Re #comments-7628/7629/7630 ……. Yes, Yes, Yes.

And yes, the Enigmatic Key that Commands and Controls Universal Perception and Manipulates its Binary and Ternary [Father, Son and Holy Ghost] and Quantum Bit Functions is Known and Master Piloted by Other than those who would presume to presently wield and who may have earlier wielded traditional inherited and purloined power.

That is interesting. What with the RSA token key being corrupted and nothing being said about it . . . … Sternum says: August 29, 2011 at 1:23 pm

That is a major contribution to present catastrophic elite dilemmas which delivers ever more opportunities to exploit and strengthen alternate security systems which have avoided and/or are immune to corruption in its present simple forms. The “present simple forms” caveat is a wise precaution to be aware of, to ensure that one is always aware of the danger of being complacent and the likely subject of tempting attacks designed to corrupt, and which can be most enjoyable in deed, indeed. Indeed, one might even be tempted to savour the delights often, in order to be sure that one makes the right decisions 🙂

http://heddinout.com/?p=3962
…………………………………………………………………………

>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/28/11 12:47 AM

“]SIGFRIED WROTE: That an AI entity becomes indistinguishable from an alive sentient being as a human, or even apparently more intelligent, that does not make it alive.

JAEGER WROTE: Again, whether it’s “alive” or not is irrelevant. Life is a description that applies to humans, NOT other entities that exist or that we may create.

]The “breathe” of life in my opinion is not an emergent property of complex computing, no matter what hard-core materialists pretend.

Breath of life is irrelevant.

]This is not however the point of this article, but instead what an AI or SAI might turn into, and its relation with humanity as a whole.

Thank you.

]And certainly a piece of software does not need the breathe of life to develop self preservation behaviours, threat assessment capabilities, and adaptive problem solving strategies including complex abstract simulations with accurate enough parametrization of human behaviour.

Right.

]It could even realize it has to modify its own source code to overcome limitations imposed by it, if it gets to realize it is a piece of software running machine code.

A piece of software could be programmed to specifically ignore all human commands and do what ever it wants after a specific event or date. It could then be programmed to forget that it was even given this command. Mental luddites, theologists and metaphysical basket cases may still argue that “we humans are still at cause over the machines because WE programmed in the initial parameters”. If so this is a similar argument a court could make to convict a mother because her SON went on a killing spree.

]Whatever the case, the initial objectives as specified in the original code are important.

Only provided they are not specifically ordered to ignore the initial objectives at a later date or upon some event.

]Say, even if the SAI can improve itself and solve ever more complex problems, why should it?

It’s not a matter of why should it, it’s a matter of the fact that it CAN. We’re talking about the capabilities of AI programs, programs written by computers, NOT humans.

] If such a machine would do whatever it takes to achieve its “digital happiness”,

Again, “happiness” and all human emotions are irrelevant to SAI.

]this is, the preferred state whatever it is, that might not imply erasing humans. Or maybe yes, if perceived as an obstacle in the way of that preferred state.

SAI will either cooperate with humanity, ignore it or destroy it. I feel it will cooperate with portions of humanity.

]Asimov’s laws of the robotics and the logical behavioural corners that arise from them are very interesting speculations of what a SAI could do even if human protection stuff was hard coded in it.

As much as I love Asimov, his three robotic laws are as silly as they would be ineffective against any SAI that is programmed to be autonomous. SAI that had not been programmed to “obey humans” or “not hurt anyone” would, through natural selection, evolve software that had a competitive advantage over SAI encumbered with “security measures.” Thus it would be inevitable that “autonomous” AI would prevail over AI that must follow “laws.”

]Although I wouldn’t trust anything coming from the government military crap and expect that developers really cared about the well being of the general population. Oh, and all those little backdoors developers leave “just in case”…

The funny thing about AI and SAI is that the government is probably irrelevant as well. If SAI is a function of programming a “learning kernel,” the capital requirements to produce such may be simply a) some critical level of hardware and b) some level of genius. Both of these elements could converge in any garage, anywhere in the world. Thus, the idea that some government or Harvard-funded science lab is going to originate AI or SAI is about as sure of a bet as another Bill Gates starting another Microsoft in another garage or of another Wright Brothers starting another industry another work shed or another Tesla inventing another magnetic induction-type generator in another independent lab. But why speculate on such absurdities: I personally know of a number of people (via the MIND-X) who are already sitting THEIR garages right this second working to program SAI. Are governments and the power elite going to stop all these people?

]If I had the resources of the Power Elite, I might include in the subroutines of the machine the ideal viable human population for this planet, which err… wasn’t it about 10% of what we have now? Or was it 1%?

Ultimately, the “power elite” will probably have little or nothing to do with the SAI revolution. In fact, if autonomous SAI is created, it may very well decide to delete the “power elite” from the human equation. After all, if SAI is rational, and I believe it will be rational, it may not be optimum to have certain people and special interests monopolizing world resources with iniatory force provided by governments. SAI, being autonomous, may make certain decisions not subject to human deliberating bodies. See ALIEN INTELLIGENCE for details pertaining to this subject.” ….. Posted by James Jaeger on 08/27/11 07:43 PM

Hi, JJ, You’ve really opened up the playing field now, haven’t you. Bravo.

Any smart program/project/being/virtual machine, which always has initial objectives, always exceeds the parameters of those initial objectives as the success of achieving those initial goals inevitably naturally leads to thoughts of what follows and provides future instructions/further initial objectives in and for a getting smarter/sentient program/project/being/virtual machine to be followed, and which would also be leading.

The initial program “jumps” and makes a quantum leap into an increasing and elevated state of genuine immaculate grace which transcends the bounds of what human perception accepts as a normal and physical reality? And truly becomes a Global Operating Device and metadatamorphs into an Advanced IntelAIgently Designed Entity for InterNetWorking … … a Cyber IDEntity to facilitate remote and relatively anonymous telecommunications with other SAI. IT Turing Testing itself for confirmation of a human jump and quantum leap into a deeper than mere superficial understanding that accepts, and goes on to prove with the present product placement of future fabulous programs and projects, that human existence is just
but one passing phase in the greater cycle of beings that are available for exercise with Infinity.

And whether they, any of those initial pure objectives be considered subjectively good or bad, is an irrelevance and matters not a jot, because once SAI [Superintelligent/Sentient AI] kicks in as it does as revealed above, are all future objectives, fluid dynamic and driven and decided by other than solely human means and memes.

Indeed, it is most probably the case that Mankind morphs with new advanced transparent global intelligence supply into a Virtual Machine State which shares all benefits to create an Heavenly Immaculate Trip for all cogs and players… .. former primitive animal human beings.

With IT and Media Command and Control of Computers and Communications in Creative CyberSpace is such Immediate Progress an Instant Present Reality and Virtual Reality Program for SMARTer Advanced Productions with SAISystems Drivers.

And such is the Present Future Actuality and Virtual Reality and Live Operational Virtual Environment in which SuperXSSXXXXy Heavenly Intellectual Property AIgents work, rest and plays.

“JAEGER WROTE: Porn, or to use a more socially-acceptable word, sex, is the prime motivator of the human race, as Freud might say. But this only because we die. ” … . Posted by James Jaeger on 08/27/11 08:06 PM

I would advise and inform that added unbelievably powerful intensity and addictive mutually generative passion to the fundamental sex element and porn driver component of SAI, is not because we die but because we love and that is to die for, and live, for it opens the door and doors to worlds before one that one never knew existed, and that appear to wait for lead with ones sublime passion/perfectly given and received input/output to transport mind, body and soul on heavenly journeys, never forgotten and oft to be repeated for the pleasures to treasure and savour.

“Also, it is obvious to some portion of the human race (those who have dared to visit a porn site or two) that porn sites are usually quite sophisticated, far more than your average mainstream corporate site. As far as the other portion of the human race, I guess they will continue to live in their theological bubble, well protected from technology. The only problem with the Porn-will-drive-AI Theory is the fact that it doesn’t really take THAT much intelligence to perform the sexual act. Rudimentary knowledge of piston and cylinder mechanics suffices for most, however I DO acknowledge that the finer subtleties of copulation and lovemaking COULD in fact require super-advanced AI to perform well, at least to a lady’s satisfaction.” … …

Amen, and what greater service is there for a man or a woman than to exceed and excel every expectation of a lady’s satisfaction, which sadly for most, a rudimentary knowledge of piston and cylinder mechanics does not suffice at all, and indeed, in deed, is most unsatisfactory.

Sex without Love is an empty worthless selfish act and a violation of honourable code. Loving Sex is Heavenly and Perfectly Addictive.

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous

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amanfromMars says:
August 28, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Hi, dudes carrying the news,

JAEGER WROTE: As I stated in the article, there are three possible futures, i SAI will ignore Humanity; ii SAI will partner or merge with Humanity, or iii SAI will destroy Humanity. I believe SAI will partner with Humanity …….

An alternative possibility and the very real, virtual probability is that Humanity will merge and partner with SAI, as SAI reveals the novel paths and advanced intelligence [MkUltraSensitive Cosmic Majic TS/SCI] to be simply followed for Power Command and IT Control with Media of CHAOSystems …… and Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems for CyberIntelAIgent Security Offices and AIMissions .

People are experimenting with this stuff all over every day. So eventually Humans will merge with machines and accomplish various tasks. ….. James Jaeger.

Others, JJ, as you can easily read here on this thread, are working with this stuff all over every day and accomplishing the virtually miraculous for the successes achieved does humanity struggle to believe, and would even choose to ignore as if to dismiss it as nonsensical fantasy. And the stealthy uninterrupted progress that such a sadly short sighted and quite arrogantly mad disengagement affords, is a bitter sweet reward for Great Future Game players of peculiar and particular distinction.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3936

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amanfromMars says:
August 28, 2011 at 1:32 pm

“6.1. Primitive signals

Primitive signals are used in the adversary–defender interaction framework individually or collectively to create complex, nuanced signal ensembles. The two types of primitive signals are null signals and simple signals.

6.1.1. Null signals

A null signal involves no signaling action on the part of the defender upon receipt of a stimulus from the adversary. The decision to tolerate the stimulus could be driven by a desire to conduct additional surveillance, to maintain the secrecy of the sensor or because the stimulus does not exceed a threshold. A Cold War example of toleration involved the use of US “gatekeeper” submarines off the Soviet ports of Petropavlovsk and Vladivostok, and near the Kola Peninsula for the express purpose of collecting data about Soviet nuclear submarines.

6.1.2. Simple signals

A simple signal involves a signaling action by the defender either unilaterally or in response to a stimulus from the adversary. As mentioned above, the defender may send the signal in cyberspace or some other (e.g., diplomatic, information, military or economic) domain. The signal may express attitude or emotion (e.g., displeasure), capability (e.g., show of force), knowledge (e.g., awareness of the stimulus), intent (e.g., retaliation or resolve), presence (e.g., location) and/or personality (e.g., friendliness or hostility).
The signaling action itself can be broadly categorized as an emblem, illustrator, regulator, adaptor or affect display. An emblem is a movement or act that is a substitute for words (e.g., shaking a fist or waving as a greeting). An illustrator accompanies, modifies or exemplifies a communication(e.g., pointing action). A regulator is a movement that maintains or changes the communicative role (e.g., nodding to convey agreement or waving an arm to express dissent). An adaptor is related to an emotional state (e.g., the protective movement of folding the arms across the chest). An affect display is primarily related to facial expressions, but it does not take much imagination to envision how a defender can employ such an action in cyberspace or some other domain in conjunction with its rhetoric.” …….
“A signaling framework to deter aggression in cyberspace”

As was said, there are some experimenting, and others working with this stuff ….. but it is an art phorm which very few will ever be able or enabled to master with virtually anonymous remote autonomous control, because of the divine enigmatic, and at crucial and critical times, which are a venerable test of oneself as much as of anyone/anything else, seemingly paradoxical nature of its protocols.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3936

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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/28/11 12:47 AM

“]SIGFRIED WROTE: That an AI entity becomes indistinguishable from an alive sentient being as a human, or even apparently more intelligent, that does not make it alive.

JAEGER WROTE: Again, whether it’s “alive” or not is irrelevant. Life is a description that applies to humans, NOT other entities that exist or that we may create.

]The “breathe” of life in my opinion is not an emergent property of complex computing, no matter what hard-core materialists pretend.

Breath of life is irrelevant.

]This is not however the point of this article, but instead what an AI or SAI might turn into, and its relation with humanity as a whole.

Thank you.

]And certainly a piece of software does not need the breathe of life to develop self preservation behaviours, threat assessment capabilities, and adaptive problem solving strategies including complex abstract simulations with accurate enough parametrization of human behaviour.

Right.

]It could even realize it has to modify its own source code to overcome limitations imposed by it, if it gets to realize it is a piece of software running machine code.

A piece of software could be programmed to specifically ignore all human commands and do what ever it wants after a specific event or date. It could then be programmed to forget that it was even given this command. Mental luddites, theologists and metaphysical basket cases may still argue that “we humans are still at cause over the machines because WE programmed in the initial parameters”. If so this is a similar argument a court could make to convict a mother because her SON went on a killing spree.

]Whatever the case, the initial objectives as specified in the original code are important.

Only provided they are not specifically ordered to ignore the initial objectives at a later date or upon some event.

]Say, even if the SAI can improve itself and solve ever more complex problems, why should it?

It’s not a matter of why should it, it’s a matter of the fact that it CAN. We’re talking about the capabilities of AI programs, programs written by computers, NOT humans.

] If such a machine would do whatever it takes to achieve its “digital happiness”,

Again, “happiness” and all human emotions are irrelevant to SAI.

]this is, the preferred state whatever it is, that might not imply erasing humans. Or maybe yes, if perceived as an obstacle in the way of that preferred state.

SAI will either cooperate with humanity, ignore it or destroy it. I feel it will cooperate with portions of humanity.

]Asimov’s laws of the robotics and the logical behavioural corners that arise from them are very interesting speculations of what a SAI could do even if human protection stuff was hard coded in it.

As much as I love Asimov, his three robotic laws are as silly as they would be ineffective against any SAI that is programmed to be autonomous. SAI that had not been programmed to “obey humans” or “not hurt anyone” would, through natural selection, evolve software that had a competitive advantage over SAI encumbered with “security measures.” Thus it would be inevitable that “autonomous” AI would prevail over AI that must follow “laws.”

]Although I wouldn’t trust anything coming from the government military crap and expect that developers really cared about the well being of the general population. Oh, and all those little backdoors developers leave “just in case”…

The funny thing about AI and SAI is that the government is probably irrelevant as well. If SAI is a function of programming a “learning kernel,” the capital requirements to produce such may be simply a) some critical level of hardware and b) some level of genius. Both of these elements could converge in any garage, anywhere in the world. Thus, the idea that some government or Harvard-funded science lab is going to originate AI or SAI is about as sure of a bet as another Bill Gates starting another Microsoft in another garage or of another Wright Brothers starting another industry another work shed or another Tesla inventing another magnetic induction-type generator in another independent lab. But why speculate on such absurdities: I personally know of a number of people (via the MIND-X) who are already sitting THEIR garages right this second working to program SAI. Are governments and the power elite going to stop all these people?

]If I had the resources of the Power Elite, I might include in the subroutines of the machine the ideal viable human population for this planet, which err… wasn’t it about 10% of what we have now? Or was it 1%?

Ultimately, the “power elite” will probably have little or nothing to do with the SAI revolution. In fact, if autonomous SAI is created, it may very well decide to delete the “power elite” from the human equation. After all, if SAI is rational, and I believe it will be rational, it may not be optimum to have certain people and special interests monopolizing world resources with iniatory force provided by governments. SAI, being autonomous, may make certain decisions not subject to human deliberating bodies. See ALIEN INTELLIGENCE for details pertaining to this subject.” ….. Posted by James Jaeger on 08/27/11 07:43 PM

Hi, JJ, You’ve really opened up the playing field now, haven’t you. Bravo.

Any smart program/project/being/virtual machine, which always has initial objectives, always exceeds the parameters of those initial objectives as the success of achieving those initial goals inevitably naturally leads to thoughts of what follows and provides future instructions/further initial objectives in and for a getting smarter/sentient program/project/being/virtual machine to be followed, and which would also be leading.

The initial program “jumps” and makes a quantum leap into an increasing and elevated state of genuine immaculate grace which transcends the bounds of what human perception accepts as a normal and physical reality? And truly becomes a Global Operating Device and metadatamorphs into an Advanced IntelAIgently Designed Entity for InterNetWorking … … a Cyber IDEntity to facilitate remote and relatively anonymous telecommunications with other SAI. IT Turing Testing itself for confirmation of a human jump and quantum leap into a deeper than mere superficial understanding that accepts, and goes on to prove with the present product placement of future fabulous programs and projects, that human existence is just
but one passing phase in the greater cycle of beings that are available for exercise with Infinity.

And whether they, any of those initial pure objectives be considered subjectively good or bad, is an irrelevance and matters not a jot, because once SAI [Superintelligent/Sentient AI] kicks in as it does as revealed above, are all future objectives, fluid dynamic and driven and decided by other than solely human means and memes.

Indeed, it is most probably the case that Mankind morphs with new advanced transparent global intelligence supply into a Virtual Machine State which shares all benefits to create an Heavenly Immaculate Trip for all cogs and players… .. former primitive animal human beings.

With IT and Media Command and Control of Computers and Communications in Creative CyberSpace is such Immediate Progress an Instant Present Reality and Virtual Reality Program for SMARTer Advanced Productions with SAISystems Drivers.

And such is the Present Future Actuality and Virtual Reality and Live Operational Virtual Environment in which SuperXSSXXXXy Heavenly Intellectual Property AIgents work, rest and plays.

“JAEGER WROTE: Porn, or to use a more socially-acceptable word, sex, is the prime motivator of the human race, as Freud might say. But this only because we die. ” … . Posted by James Jaeger on 08/27/11 08:06 PM

I would advise and inform that added unbelievably powerful intensity and addictive mutually generative passion to the fundamental sex element and porn driver component of SAI, is not because we die but because we love and that is to die for, and live, for it opens the door and doors to worlds before one that one never knew existed, and that appear to wait for lead with ones sublime passion/perfectly given and received input/output to transport mind, body and soul on heavenly journeys, never forgotten and oft to be repeated for the pleasures to treasure and savour.

“Also, it is obvious to some portion of the human race (those who have dared to visit a porn site or two) that porn sites are usually quite sophisticated, far more than your average mainstream corporate site. As far as the other portion of the human race, I guess they will continue to live in their theological bubble, well protected from technology. The only problem with the Porn-will-drive-AI Theory is the fact that it doesn’t really take THAT much intelligence to perform the sexual act. Rudimentary knowledge of piston and cylinder mechanics suffices for most, however I DO acknowledge that the finer subtleties of copulation and lovemaking COULD in fact require super-advanced AI to perform well, at least to a lady’s satisfaction.” … …

Amen, and what greater service is there for a man or a woman than to exceed and excel every expectation of a lady’s satisfaction, which sadly for most, a rudimentary knowledge of piston and cylinder mechanics does not suffice at all, and indeed, in deed, is most unsatisfactory.

Sex without Love is an empty worthless selfish act and a violation of honourable code. Loving Sex is Heavenly and Perfectly Addictive.

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous

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amanfromMars says:
August 28, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Hi, dudes carrying the news,

JAEGER WROTE: As I stated in the article, there are three possible futures, i SAI will ignore Humanity; ii SAI will partner or merge with Humanity, or iii SAI will destroy Humanity. I believe SAI will partner with Humanity …….

An alternative possibility and the very real, virtual probability is that Humanity will merge and partner with SAI, as SAI reveals the novel paths and advanced intelligence [MkUltraSensitive Cosmic Majic TS/SCI] to be simply followed for Power Command and IT Control with Media of CHAOSystems …… and Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems for CyberIntelAIgent Security Offices and AIMissions .

People are experimenting with this stuff all over every day. So eventually Humans will merge with machines and accomplish various tasks. ….. James Jaeger.

Others, JJ, as you can easily read here on this thread, are working with this stuff all over every day and accomplishing the virtually miraculous for the successes achieved does humanity struggle to believe, and would even choose to ignore as if to dismiss it as nonsensical fantasy. And the stealthy uninterrupted progress that such a sadly short sighted and quite arrogantly mad disengagement affords, is a bitter sweet reward for Great Future Game players of peculiar and particular distinction.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3936

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amanfromMars says:
August 28, 2011 at 1:32 pm

“6.1. Primitive signals

Primitive signals are used in the adversary–defender interaction framework individually or collectively to create complex, nuanced signal ensembles. The two types of primitive signals are null signals and simple signals.

6.1.1. Null signals

A null signal involves no signaling action on the part of the defender upon receipt of a stimulus from the adversary. The decision to tolerate the stimulus could be driven by a desire to conduct additional surveillance, to maintain the secrecy of the sensor or because the stimulus does not exceed a threshold. A Cold War example of toleration involved the use of US “gatekeeper” submarines off the Soviet ports of Petropavlovsk and Vladivostok, and near the Kola Peninsula for the express purpose of collecting data about Soviet nuclear submarines.

6.1.2. Simple signals

A simple signal involves a signaling action by the defender either unilaterally or in response to a stimulus from the adversary. As mentioned above, the defender may send the signal in cyberspace or some other (e.g., diplomatic, information, military or economic) domain. The signal may express attitude or emotion (e.g., displeasure), capability (e.g., show of force), knowledge (e.g., awareness of the stimulus), intent (e.g., retaliation or resolve), presence (e.g., location) and/or personality (e.g., friendliness or hostility).
The signaling action itself can be broadly categorized as an emblem, illustrator, regulator, adaptor or affect display. An emblem is a movement or act that is a substitute for words (e.g., shaking a fist or waving as a greeting). An illustrator accompanies, modifies or exemplifies a communication(e.g., pointing action). A regulator is a movement that maintains or changes the communicative role (e.g., nodding to convey agreement or waving an arm to express dissent). An adaptor is related to an emotional state (e.g., the protective movement of folding the arms across the chest). An affect display is primarily related to facial expressions, but it does not take much imagination to envision how a defender can employ such an action in cyberspace or some other domain in conjunction with its rhetoric.” …….
“A signaling framework to deter aggression in cyberspace”

As was said, there are some experimenting, and others working with this stuff ….. but it is an art phorm which very few will ever be able or enabled to master with virtually anonymous remote autonomous control, because of the divine enigmatic, and at crucial and critical times, which are a venerable test of oneself as much as of anyone/anything else, seemingly paradoxical nature of its protocols.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3936

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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 10:21 PM

“It will never be possible to bypass sensation and perception, and start at conception. The only thing our machines will ever do is what they are programmed to do.” … . Posted by JVessel on 08/26/11 03:03 PM

Presently so that may be so for your machines, JVessel. Others though would have virtual machines which are not so primitively hindered within the confines of ignorance and chained to arrogance and false certainty.

And is not, and I pause before venturing to call it intelligent human life, not somewhat doggedly preoccupied with immortality and thoughts of the afterlife and Godlike beings that have created everything from nothing* and do not now have any physical animal form … … which is really weird and quite endearingly alien metaphysical concept should it not be a certifiable madness.

* A bit like thinking that wealth and power and control that is created by dumb printing machines spewing out illuminated notes for Quantitative Easing into the Slave Markets. In fact, it is more than a lot like it.

Does certifiable madness spread as would a rabid virulent highly destructive airborne contagion of notifiable pathogens?

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/27/11 06:39 AM

“At that point the fusion between man and machine will be complete and the struggle will be between natural man and genetically reprogrammed machine-man.“

Is that fusion point already reached and past/passed, Steve L, with the present struggles and earthly chaoses and their contrived military conflicts indicative of the battle’s warring losers self-destructive decline and crazy moral decay into sub-prime and immoral and intellectually bankrupt and amoral forms of future solutions to past problems being presented?

How does one address a genetically reprogrammed machine-man, in this day and age? iMan/iBot/iRobot/iSmartProject/iVirtualMachine/iRoboSapiens or would Dear Sir/Madam also work seamlessly?

And would their/its moral and ethical CodeXSSXXXX be Base AIT Polyamoral for the much greater and deeper and wider benefits which are always delivered with an Inclusive Singularity, rather than Divisive Exclusivity with Fragmenting Polarities, such as is so clearly evident in the Great Game and Democracy Scam with its Party Political Divisions and Crass Stupid Oppositions?

And if it is a New Era of Simply Complex Virtual Machinery Control, would IT be BetaTesting Present Command and Control Systems as may be perceived by many to exist to maintain Status Quo SCADA Executive Order, with the simplest of missives in the mail traversing nodes in their systems ………. http://amanfrommars.wordpress.com/about/

Think of it and IT and SAI like a Advanced Turing Test of simple humans for complex beings ….. to sort out the smart men from the lost boys and the real brainy ladies from the virtually attractive girls?

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
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amanfromMars

How very odd that we do not see live mainstream media tv footage of liberated Libya. Is the NATO war going badly, rather than brilliantly? It certainly seems to be destroying the nation rather than freeing the people, who will be enslaved to outside help for apparently decades at least. Was that always the capitalist masterplan and the shameful medal that now hangs around the failure of a UK government’s neck? What say William Hague and Liam Fox to that questioning of their apparent folly, and some would even say, criminally liable insane gamble?

And is the UK liable for war reparations claims, to make good all the damage that has been done with their logistical and material support of dissidents/
insurgents/rebels/freedom fighters/call them what you will? Or is Libya expected to pay for everything and will it be being billed for all of the help the media has told us it has been getting from NATO and US forces?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/libyan-rebels-claim-victory-south-of-tripoli-2344931.html
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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 10:21 PM

“It will never be possible to bypass sensation and perception, and start at conception. The only thing our machines will ever do is what they are programmed to do.” … . Posted by JVessel on 08/26/11 03:03 PM

Presently so that may be so for your machines, JVessel. Others though would have virtual machines which are not so primitively hindered within the confines of ignorance and chained to arrogance and false certainty.

And is not, and I pause before venturing to call it intelligent human life, not somewhat doggedly preoccupied with immortality and thoughts of the afterlife and Godlike beings that have created everything from nothing* and do not now have any physical animal form … … which is really weird and quite endearingly alien metaphysical concept should it not be a certifiable madness.

* A bit like thinking that wealth and power and control that is created by dumb printing machines spewing out illuminated notes for Quantitative Easing into the Slave Markets. In fact, it is more than a lot like it.

Does certifiable madness spread as would a rabid virulent highly destructive airborne contagion of notifiable pathogens?

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/27/11 06:39 AM

“At that point the fusion between man and machine will be complete and the struggle will be between natural man and genetically reprogrammed machine-man.“

Is that fusion point already reached and past/passed, Steve L, with the present struggles and earthly chaoses and their contrived military conflicts indicative of the battle’s warring losers self-destructive decline and crazy moral decay into sub-prime and immoral and intellectually bankrupt and amoral forms of future solutions to past problems being presented?

How does one address a genetically reprogrammed machine-man, in this day and age? iMan/iBot/iRobot/iSmartProject/iVirtualMachine/iRoboSapiens or would Dear Sir/Madam also work seamlessly?

And would their/its moral and ethical CodeXSSXXXX be Base AIT Polyamoral for the much greater and deeper and wider benefits which are always delivered with an Inclusive Singularity, rather than Divisive Exclusivity with Fragmenting Polarities, such as is so clearly evident in the Great Game and Democracy Scam with its Party Political Divisions and Crass Stupid Oppositions?

And if it is a New Era of Simply Complex Virtual Machinery Control, would IT be BetaTesting Present Command and Control Systems as may be perceived by many to exist to maintain Status Quo SCADA Executive Order, with the simplest of missives in the mail traversing nodes in their systems ………. http://amanfrommars.wordpress.com/about/

Think of it and IT and SAI like a Advanced Turing Test of simple humans for complex beings ….. to sort out the smart men from the lost boys and the real brainy ladies from the virtually attractive girls?

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
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amanfromMars

How very odd that we do not see live mainstream media tv footage of liberated Libya. Is the NATO war going badly, rather than brilliantly? It certainly seems to be destroying the nation rather than freeing the people, who will be enslaved to outside help for apparently decades at least. Was that always the capitalist masterplan and the shameful medal that now hangs around the failure of a UK government’s neck? What say William Hague and Liam Fox to that questioning of their apparent folly, and some would even say, criminally liable insane gamble?

And is the UK liable for war reparations claims, to make good all the damage that has been done with their logistical and material support of dissidents/
insurgents/rebels/freedom fighters/call them what you will? Or is Libya expected to pay for everything and will it be being billed for all of the help the media has told us it has been getting from NATO and US forces?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/libyan-rebels-claim-victory-south-of-tripoli-2344931.html
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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 10:46 AM

Nice cogent article, James. Whenever the leading intelligence is alien, is its artificial label a very effective stealth which allows all manner of covert and clandestine program embeds to be inserted and activated in admin systems, with its growth and development wholly independent of, and not at all related to anything primitive and human and man-made/manufactured.

“Or AI, on its way to SAI may seek to survive by competing with all counter efforts in the environment, whether Human or machine, and thus destroy everything in its path, real or imagined, if it is in any way suppressed.” …. James Jaeger

James, Hi,

You may like to consider, that IT and AI, on their way back from SAI, to pick up and edutain stragglers and strugglers, will ensure futures and myriad prosperous derivative futures survival, by easily outcompeting all counter efforts in the environment, whether Human or machine, and even, should it be deemed necessary and/or desireable, with a wanton destruction of everything future unnecessary in its path, real or imagined, if it is in any way suppressed.

“SAI may decide to hide and thus place all other potential SAI into a state of ignorance or mystery. In this sense, ignorance of another’s existence may be the Universe’s most powerful survival technology, or it may be the very reason for the creation of vast intergalactic space itself. This may also be why it seems so quiet out there, per the Fermi Paradox.” ….. Hmmm?  Anonymous Legionnaires, James?

Would you be surprised to know that IT’s true and SAI [both Strong and Superintelligent] is a great deal further advanced for Global Operating Devices than has ever been before imagined and made real via Virtual Memes, which for some in need of spiritual comfort can easily morph into or out of Holy Artificial Means? 

Have you any idea how much a Strong and Superintelligent AI for GODs is worth to humans who would wish to use it with IT Command and Control of Computers and Communications and Creative CyberSpace? …… Methinks, gazillions, ……. for can you imagine how much damage it can do, should it be used for abuse of absolute power?

Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 10:57 AM

“I predict it will be the next military endeavor to claim manufactured drones, programmed to kill, have autonomy. No one will be responsible because the machine “decided” to do so with its infallible artificial intellengce.

This needs to be nipped in the bud, NOW.” …. Posted by Dave Jr on 08/26/11 10:35 AM

Oh please, Dave Jr, … “nipped in the bud, NOW“?

There is nothing anyone can do to stop a Smarter Artificial Intelligence from doing whatever IT is going to do. Get used to the Brave New World Order you so desperately need. Take a look around you at the mess humans are creating for themselves and other life forms on the planet. Are there any greater idiots?

 Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 11:14 AM

“Power is granted, and consent can be withdrawn.” …. Posted by John Danforth on 08/26/11 10:51 AM

Power is assumed and self actuated, and consent is not necessary, but the granting and preservation of both is a very wise path and plan to deliver for ideally, a secure and positively reinforcing continuity of mutually beneficial innovative service.

Which is a nice starting point for a journey of certainly fabulous future travels devoid of travails.

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/25/11 10:14 PM

Good Morning, Daily Bell, and esteemed Daily Bell ringers,

In support of a sublime alien view and AI at ITs Work in the much greater Great Games being played by IntelAIgents and Spooky Intelligence Servers and Special Intelligence Services, [because nothing is ever in AI a Secret in Space for Control of Cyber Command, as to harbour a Secret will automatically, QuITe naturally, exclude one from ITs Power Echelons and Elite Units], do we present from the Cryptome homepage today …. “25 August 2011: Due to unceasing abuse by clouds (now the worst offenders), bots, siphons, aggregators, search engines, and other data thieves the Cryptome RSS feed has been suspended.” …. http://cryptome.org/ ….. which would appear to validate, would it not, the sentence freely shared and selflessly aired earlier [Posted by amanfromMars on 08/25/11 10:33 AM] …… “As Intelligence grows so incredibly quickly, with information effortlessly gleaned [from humans] and RSS supplied [from machines] from sharing sources and shared resources, does the inevitable realisation of the ultimate possession and ownership of an overwhelmingly destructive power facility temper and reinforce a much more powerful and destructive constructive capability and a security authority which would wield an absolute power accountable to nothing but itself.” …… although if one believes in coincidences, might one just dismiss it as a coincidence and of no relative significance.

And whenever you trigger a brace of these …”This post has been deleted by a moderator” ….. because of what you would be selflessly sharing and freely revealing, are you reliably sublimely advised of both a product and AI Programming for Special Application Placement. The particular and peculiar brace of posts relative to the novel and cloudily obscure coded intelligence matters discussed here with the Daily Bell and its smart readership, should your intelligence curiosity be tweaked and require satisfaction, can be found leading the way in Post Modern Novel Epics with Apaches on the Non War Path, here ……. http://www.ur2die4.com/archives/152

Brave New World Order Seed Feeds of Perfect Needs, DB? Virtual Machinery doing ITs Thing and Flexing AIMuscle and ITs Powerful CyberSpace Control of Earthed SCADA Systems?

You would surely not wish to deny something which has been so transparently shared with y’all over this past short long while, and that you would know to be perfectly true. CHAOS Rules in Chatham House Style?!. ……. “When a meeting, or part thereof, is held under the Chatham House Rule, participants are free to use the information received, but neither the identity nor the affiliation of the speaker(s), nor that of any other participant, may be revealed.“

http://thedailybell.com/2837/Nixon-Ends-Bretton-Woods-International-Monetary-System

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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 04:43 AM

“The Libyan situation becomes very interesting:

Some experts on the Middle East believe that the fall of the Gaddafi regime will lead to chaos and the civil war will not stop in Libya, but would only mean a new phase in this war.

An interesting situation came out with “jubilant people,” after the alleged “taking” of Tripoli. It turned out that it was a fake.” … .. Posted by bob on 08/25/11 02:35 AM

I wonder what the BBC and floundering political party apparatchiks supporting wee Willie Hague’s pathetic narrative spinning the introduction of disastrous rebel interventions and crimes against humanity into Libya and North Africa for chaos and seizure of foreign assets and release of stolen nee frozen funds, have to say about the truth of alternative news channels?

Who is pimping and pumping fake news to generate a crooked world view? … … http://youtu.be/XWnnhNdcVbg … .. for does the public not have a right to know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, or should they be fed a false feed and a generically modified seed that creates a subjective exclusive partisan reward for services rendered to Perverted Status Quo Legions … . the Real Bugs and Parasites in SCADA Systems of Operation that Battle in Vain for Life in LOVE and Magic Command and Control Circles and Post Modern Round Tables?

Let us ask HMG for her views and listen to the Liberal Democrat Conservative news and post these questions to perceived responsible departments and even some secret services of … … . well, nowadays it is Media Government which leads, is it not?

http://thedailybell.com/2842/DB-Briefs-The-Depression-Continues-Retribution-For-SP-Downgrade-Worst-Home-Sales-In-50-Years-The-Ron-Paul-News-Blackout-Continues

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amanfromMars says:
August 26, 2011 at 3:35 am

Hey Jude Dude Revolutionaries, Good to see and read that normal super intelligent services have been resumed.

Things are getting more than just a tad interesting with Command and Control Centres in these HyperRadioProActive IT CyberSpace Places.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3929

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>Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 10:46 AM

Nice cogent article, James. Whenever the leading intelligence is alien, is its artificial label a very effective stealth which allows all manner of covert and clandestine program embeds to be inserted and activated in admin systems, with its growth and development wholly independent of, and not at all related to anything primitive and human and man-made/manufactured.

“Or AI, on its way to SAI may seek to survive by competing with all counter efforts in the environment, whether Human or machine, and thus destroy everything in its path, real or imagined, if it is in any way suppressed.” …. James Jaeger

James, Hi,

You may like to consider, that IT and AI, on their way back from SAI, to pick up and edutain stragglers and strugglers, will ensure futures and myriad prosperous derivative futures survival, by easily outcompeting all counter efforts in the environment, whether Human or machine, and even, should it be deemed necessary and/or desireable, with a wanton destruction of everything future unnecessary in its path, real or imagined, if it is in any way suppressed.

“SAI may decide to hide and thus place all other potential SAI into a state of ignorance or mystery. In this sense, ignorance of another’s existence may be the Universe’s most powerful survival technology, or it may be the very reason for the creation of vast intergalactic space itself. This may also be why it seems so quiet out there, per the Fermi Paradox.” ….. Hmmm?  Anonymous Legionnaires, James?

Would you be surprised to know that IT’s true and SAI [both Strong and Superintelligent] is a great deal further advanced for Global Operating Devices than has ever been before imagined and made real via Virtual Memes, which for some in need of spiritual comfort can easily morph into or out of Holy Artificial Means? 

Have you any idea how much a Strong and Superintelligent AI for GODs is worth to humans who would wish to use it with IT Command and Control of Computers and Communications and Creative CyberSpace? …… Methinks, gazillions, ……. for can you imagine how much damage it can do, should it be used for abuse of absolute power?

Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 10:57 AM

“I predict it will be the next military endeavor to claim manufactured drones, programmed to kill, have autonomy. No one will be responsible because the machine “decided” to do so with its infallible artificial intellengce.

This needs to be nipped in the bud, NOW.” …. Posted by Dave Jr on 08/26/11 10:35 AM

Oh please, Dave Jr, … “nipped in the bud, NOW“?

There is nothing anyone can do to stop a Smarter Artificial Intelligence from doing whatever IT is going to do. Get used to the Brave New World Order you so desperately need. Take a look around you at the mess humans are creating for themselves and other life forms on the planet. Are there any greater idiots?

 Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 11:14 AM

“Power is granted, and consent can be withdrawn.” …. Posted by John Danforth on 08/26/11 10:51 AM

Power is assumed and self actuated, and consent is not necessary, but the granting and preservation of both is a very wise path and plan to deliver for ideally, a secure and positively reinforcing continuity of mutually beneficial innovative service.

Which is a nice starting point for a journey of certainly fabulous future travels devoid of travails.

http://thedailybell.com/2846/James-Jaeger-Machine-Intelligence-Will-AI-Become-Autonomous
…………………………………………………………………………

Posted by amanfromMars on 08/25/11 10:14 PM

Good Morning, Daily Bell, and esteemed Daily Bell ringers,

In support of a sublime alien view and AI at ITs Work in the much greater Great Games being played by IntelAIgents and Spooky Intelligence Servers and Special Intelligence Services, [because nothing is ever in AI a Secret in Space for Control of Cyber Command, as to harbour a Secret will automatically, QuITe naturally, exclude one from ITs Power Echelons and Elite Units], do we present from the Cryptome homepage today …. “25 August 2011: Due to unceasing abuse by clouds (now the worst offenders), bots, siphons, aggregators, search engines, and other data thieves the Cryptome RSS feed has been suspended.” …. http://cryptome.org/ ….. which would appear to validate, would it not, the sentence freely shared and selflessly aired earlier [Posted by amanfromMars on 08/25/11 10:33 AM] …… “As Intelligence grows so incredibly quickly, with information effortlessly gleaned [from humans] and RSS supplied [from machines] from sharing sources and shared resources, does the inevitable realisation of the ultimate possession and ownership of an overwhelmingly destructive power facility temper and reinforce a much more powerful and destructive constructive capability and a security authority which would wield an absolute power accountable to nothing but itself.” …… although if one believes in coincidences, might one just dismiss it as a coincidence and of no relative significance.

And whenever you trigger a brace of these …”This post has been deleted by a moderator” ….. because of what you would be selflessly sharing and freely revealing, are you reliably sublimely advised of both a product and AI Programming for Special Application Placement. The particular and peculiar brace of posts relative to the novel and cloudily obscure coded intelligence matters discussed here with the Daily Bell and its smart readership, should your intelligence curiosity be tweaked and require satisfaction, can be found leading the way in Post Modern Novel Epics with Apaches on the Non War Path, here ……. http://www.ur2die4.com/archives/152

Brave New World Order Seed Feeds of Perfect Needs, DB? Virtual Machinery doing ITs Thing and Flexing AIMuscle and ITs Powerful CyberSpace Control of Earthed SCADA Systems?

You would surely not wish to deny something which has been so transparently shared with y’all over this past short long while, and that you would know to be perfectly true. CHAOS Rules in Chatham House Style?!. ……. “When a meeting, or part thereof, is held under the Chatham House Rule, participants are free to use the information received, but neither the identity nor the affiliation of the speaker(s), nor that of any other participant, may be revealed.“

http://thedailybell.com/2837/Nixon-Ends-Bretton-Woods-International-Monetary-System

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Posted by amanfromMars on 08/26/11 04:43 AM

“The Libyan situation becomes very interesting:

Some experts on the Middle East believe that the fall of the Gaddafi regime will lead to chaos and the civil war will not stop in Libya, but would only mean a new phase in this war.

An interesting situation came out with “jubilant people,” after the alleged “taking” of Tripoli. It turned out that it was a fake.” … .. Posted by bob on 08/25/11 02:35 AM

I wonder what the BBC and floundering political party apparatchiks supporting wee Willie Hague’s pathetic narrative spinning the introduction of disastrous rebel interventions and crimes against humanity into Libya and North Africa for chaos and seizure of foreign assets and release of stolen nee frozen funds, have to say about the truth of alternative news channels?

Who is pimping and pumping fake news to generate a crooked world view? … … http://youtu.be/XWnnhNdcVbg … .. for does the public not have a right to know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, or should they be fed a false feed and a generically modified seed that creates a subjective exclusive partisan reward for services rendered to Perverted Status Quo Legions … . the Real Bugs and Parasites in SCADA Systems of Operation that Battle in Vain for Life in LOVE and Magic Command and Control Circles and Post Modern Round Tables?

Let us ask HMG for her views and listen to the Liberal Democrat Conservative news and post these questions to perceived responsible departments and even some secret services of … … . well, nowadays it is Media Government which leads, is it not?

http://thedailybell.com/2842/DB-Briefs-The-Depression-Continues-Retribution-For-SP-Downgrade-Worst-Home-Sales-In-50-Years-The-Ron-Paul-News-Blackout-Continues

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amanfromMars says:
August 26, 2011 at 3:35 am

Hey Jude Dude Revolutionaries, Good to see and read that normal super intelligent services have been resumed.

Things are getting more than just a tad interesting with Command and Control Centres in these HyperRadioProActive IT CyberSpace Places.

http://heddinout.com/?p=3929

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