>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 11:08:42 PM

“The feeling that we are constantly being lied.” …. Posted by Siegfried on 12/17/2010 8:35:36 PM

Welcome to the Great Internet Game, Siegfried  …… http://cryptome.org/invent-intel.htm

“Gareth Williams was the real leaker not Bradly Manning. Go to Abel Danger site for more.” …. Posted by David on 12/17/2010 6:08:27 PM

An interesting premise, David, which would then have MI6/GCHQ in a pissing contest with NSA/CIA?

As for Assange, one would quite reasonably expect something extremely damaging about a perverse and corrupted administration to be posted onto the Internet, in retaliation/payback for his recent sojourn/sabbatical in Wormwood Scrubs jail. A bolt out of the blue and lightning attack/enlightening zeroday missive. Failing that, one must then start to imagine that he is indeed just a fraud and betatest puppet/crash test dummy in this new information sharing medium of the Internet …. SMART Meme Pool* …. which is quite a perfect enough vehicle for those into Advanced IntelAIgent Drives with Universal and Unilateral Command and Control of Human Perception with Global Operating Devices.

Is it true that whilst detained he was kept isolated from other prisoners in custody, who may have been criminals and who would have been able to suss out a fraud and/or snitch in their midst? Is the provision of solitary confinement a normal service afforded to those on remand for political agent provocateurism and popular radical fame ….. which now may be thought of, as false flag active damage limitation if Julian is turned and an establishment plant/mole/trojan/diversionary lightning rod. I cannot imagine that it was for his own protection because of the sexual nature of the charges levelled against him.

Certainly his very evasive non answer to a question put to him by the BBC, whenever he was basking in the media limelight at his mansion house arrest site, regarding the monies Wikileaks promised to the defence team of Bradley Manning and which haven’t been paid, and the then difficulty/failure experienced by the BBC in contacting him again about the issue to further explore the “anomaly”, is odd. Maybe he needed to retire for instruction and guidance on that matter, from his handlers?

And here is a treasure trove of wikileaks type information hosted by one of its original mentors …… http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-series.htm …… although I think Mr Young has distanced himself somewhat from the present incarnation/abortion of the project?  And what are we to make of that, I wonder.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 11:38:44 PM

In a Click to View Link window which opens up a 404 Page Not Found page, please check the address bar and remove the arrow and br at the end. Thanks.

Oh and I forgot to add another string to the SMART Meme Pool* bow with the inclusion of, and the metatdatamorph of it, to accommodate any possible Alien Gene Promotion with AI pimping and pumping NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive Sees ….. although I will accept that such may be at an altogether different level of consciousness and thus more specialised and more exclusive and for many, just too unbelievable to them to be realised and virtualised as true and a fact. 

It is though in such a case, an extremely fortunate convenience, for whenever it is dismissed and believed to be just a fiction, does it and IT, affords it and IT, a stealth and facilities which one can only imagine and dream of.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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Are there any CyberIntelAIgent Warriors posting on these boards, or is it a Virtual Discipline which has the MOD/MI5/MI6 scratching their heads and nuts over?

Control CyberSpace and you have Command of everything and whatever you like down on planet Earth …….. which makes it an Unbelievably Valuable Operational Environment for those into the Master Piloting of Master Programs. And it is attractive too, for it does not suffer the useful fool or the useless tool in the Great Game that IT and modern instant communications play. It is certainly something that Uncle Sam is trying to get his head around, presumably to throw his weight around and save themselves from economic collapse/dollar meltdown.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153455-wikileaks-does-again-53.html#post3542916

“You can “control” whatever you want – and spend a fortune (that you can’t afford) doing so…. but if self-delusion continues to creep in, a proportion of that “Intel” is going to be just stories that the intel gatherers made up, hoping it would please their masters.” …. Originally Posted by BigRonW

Quite so, BigRonW. The SMART* Operative though will guard against such self-delusion and nowadays, with the tools/machines that we have at our finger tips, and that are connected to the Internet and Networks InterNetworking JOINT Applications, both hard-wired and wireless/satellite, [for there are many internets] are outrageous fortunes made, rather than spent, by those most skilled in the Field. And anonymously too, striking like lightning phantoms against installations and administration which have no defences against constantly evolving and and improving attack vectors/zeroday vulnerabilities. And Masters in the genre spend virtually nothing and that makes them the most valuable of treasured assets, although invariably on secondment for mercenary deployment, given the nature of their skills.

*Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153455-wikileaks-does-again-53.html#post3543023

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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 3:44:25 AM

“@ CatWriter…..fantastic idea you proposed of coming together as a group.” …. Posted by Jeannie Queenie on 12/17/2010 1:46:21 AM

A word of caution is needed there, Jeannie Queenie, for it leaves the group members liable to malicious prosecution and persecution as a conspiracy should they start to gain any traction which casts a bright light into dark, but incredibly lucrative, personally rewarding corners of an established practice, which cannot survive the light of day and general knowledge.

Which is what the present scrabbling around for a viable pretext to indict Wikileaks/Assange for spying/espionage is all about ….. and it makes those doing all the scrabbling about look even more ridiculous as they try to defend the indefensible, and for which they are responsible. 

2011 is going to be a quite interesting year, methinks. If one was into predictions, one might even put a sizeable bet on it being “The Year of the ZerodDay Trader” such is the line up/stack of vulnerabilities so freely available for XSSXXXXPloit and Export.

And the flip side of that coin is that it will also be a mega metadata bumper year for those competent virtual and viral security firms/agents which track them in the guerrilla marketing field.

As may be noticed by the astute reader in all of the above, is there no mention of it being preventable and thus avoided and unlikely to happen.

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 11:42:19 PM

Dan,

You have completely missed the point, which is entirely the opposite of what you have speculated ….”If WikiLeaks would justify a clampdown on internet activity, it would have served a highly valuable purpose, for the web has proven to be a thorn in the side of our Platonic Masters.“

In your own vernacular, it is probably definitely Platonic Masters test drivering a new and Advanced Internet Vehicle ….. for Special Command and Control Vessels. And that is best and easiest imagined as it being a novel sort of, or if you are much more deeply into binary technologies for the digital manipulation of perception and human signalling, an innovative phorm of shake down trials, beta-testing performance and reliability parameters and environmental impact issues.

Which is surely exactly what one would expect from the likes of a philanthropic organization set up by a billionaire investor, as is typified by the likes of an Open Society Institute and George Soros. They are though, but just as one smart shark in a very crowded and active sea/field/see, and thus is any certain identification of prime moving force, immaculately clouded with myriad other possibilities/Great Game player investors.

Virtual Stealth is real big business, and you can expect all the usual smarter Great Game suspects in the Establishment to be vying for uncompetitive and overwhelming advantage in ITs New and SurReal CyberSpace Environment, with the other slower ones into such Games, taking a buffetting and a pasting and a bubble bath, and losing their fortunes trying to prop up and push a failed and disgraced, earlier sub-prime model with dodgy investment vehicles.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 10:01:12 AM

What you may not yet realise is that truth telling is now regarded as a legitimate pastime which authorities are unable to prosecute you for should you also be considered or classified as a whistleblower, for to spin a tissue of lies is really just as an act of treason in a political/diplomatic context, for it is invariably done solely for personal enrichment at the expense of the greater good. There is though the chance of a persecution in such cases, but that just alerts everyone to those who have some dirty little secrets to hide.

This is not spin though ….. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40707699/ns/technology_and_science-security/ …… and is the game changer elephant in the room Uncle Sam has to now deal with, and that will require the import of new deeper thinking talent with a significant investment/signing on fee to the top guns required, and which they so badly need, because they are in Dire Straits indeed whenever their Codes are hacked and cracked.

““The most sophisticated adversaries are going to go unnoticed on our networks,” she said.” ……. and create havoc to order at their leisure and pleasure too, should they even begin to suspect that they are to be pursued rather than welcomed into the fold as a valuable protected asset ….. a virtual NOC.

Forget about all that nonsense in the past, which is forever regurgitated to occupy and waste everyone’s time and stop them thinking about how things are planned, which is exactly what such nonsense is used for, and consider that once you know how easily Man is programmed to believe what he reads and sees and hears in the media, the dolt can be fooled to believe anything, whilst the spinners of tales can loot the treasury and be protected by lies.

And that, if it is attacked, is self defeating, for the truth cannot be bettered or harmed, but only strengthened, even whenever attacked.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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“Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, warned on Thursday that the government would not “stand idly by” if banks pay out huge bonuses at the expense of increasing lending.” 

You’ll not be able to get any bookies taking bets on that being true ….. ergo is it Clegg just huffing and puffing and blowing hot air yet again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8207767/Banks-face-an-extra-80bn-of-bad-debts.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 5:17:05 AM

“He’s being groomed. Sure he is.” …. Daily Bell sensationalist conversationalist,  “Patriot.”

DB, A rhetorical question, which doesn’t require an answer ……  Did you reply to “Patriot”, pointing out to him in the clearest and most eloquent and elegant of terms, that it was the likes of he who is being groomed?

“He could in fact, according to reports we’ve read, end up in the US facing espionage charges.”

Only if they are prepared to burn the American Constitution, DB, for that will be all it is good for if they try to trump up charges against the ……. well, it is the New Reality, isn’t it, with virtually anonymous IT bods and boffins ploughing a novel furrow and planting a new field of exotic crops for future feeding needs.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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PC Plod …….. Advanced IntelAIgents Division
Posted Friday 17th December 2010 03:06 GMT

“Further attacks were launched after the firm’s founder, Andrew Crossley, mocked the group’s initial DDoS in an interview with The Register. Disastrous efforts to restore the website then publicly exposed confidential company files, including the personal data of ACS:Law’s targets. The Information Commissioner is investigating the apparent breach of the Data Protection Act by the firm.

Meanwhile, the Met’s investigation of the incident – and the more recent WikiLeaks-related attacks on the websites of Visa, Mastercard and PayPal – could have serious consequences for British members of Anonymous.“

Is that Met investigation, an investigation into an extortion racket being run by the firm’s founder ….. who would appear to be a serial loser if one can believe the ACS:Law wiki …… “The main partner of the company, and its only registered solicitor,[3] is Andrew Crossley. Crossley has twice been found guilty of conduct unbefitting a solicitor by the Solicitors Regulation Authority, in 2002 and again in 2006.[4] In August 2010, the Solicitors Regulation Authority confirmed that Crossley was being summoned to his third disciplinary tribunal, in response to ACS:Law’s action against suspected copyright infringers.” ?

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/16/met_anonymous/
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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/16/10 | 10:23 pm |

“The Justice Department would have no problem distinguishing WikiLeaks from traditional media outlets, if it decides to charge WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with violating the Espionage Act, a former federal prosecutor told lawmakers Thursday.”

Methinks, with such an opinion as that, that is why Wainstein is a former federal prosecutor. Some folk just don’t have what it takes, and it is best just to let them go.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-and-espionage-act/

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Flogging a dead horse……

Posted Friday 17th December 2010 14:03 GMT

“It is obviously in the national interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.” …. dephormation.org.uk Posted Friday 17th December 2010 12:53 GMT

It is obviously not in the national security interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.

Move along now, nothing to see here.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/17/cps_phorm/
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 3:44:25 AM

“@ CatWriter…..fantastic idea you proposed of coming together as a group.” …. Posted by Jeannie Queenie on 12/17/2010 1:46:21 AM

A word of caution is needed there, Jeannie Queenie, for it leaves the group members liable to malicious prosecution and persecution as a conspiracy should they start to gain any traction which casts a bright light into dark, but incredibly lucrative, personally rewarding corners of an established practice, which cannot survive the light of day and general knowledge.

Which is what the present scrabbling around for a viable pretext to indict Wikileaks/Assange for spying/espionage is all about ….. and it makes those doing all the scrabbling about look even more ridiculous as they try to defend the indefensible, and for which they are responsible. 

2011 is going to be a quite interesting year, methinks. If one was into predictions, one might even put a sizeable bet on it being “The Year of the ZerodDay Trader” such is the line up/stack of vulnerabilities so freely available for XSSXXXXPloit and Export.

And the flip side of that coin is that it will also be a mega metadata bumper year for those competent virtual and viral security firms/agents which track them in the guerrilla marketing field.

As may be noticed by the astute reader in all of the above, is there no mention of it being preventable and thus avoided and unlikely to happen.

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 11:42:19 PM

Dan,

You have completely missed the point, which is entirely the opposite of what you have speculated ….”If WikiLeaks would justify a clampdown on internet activity, it would have served a highly valuable purpose, for the web has proven to be a thorn in the side of our Platonic Masters.“

In your own vernacular, it is probably definitely Platonic Masters test drivering a new and Advanced Internet Vehicle ….. for Special Command and Control Vessels. And that is best and easiest imagined as it being a novel sort of, or if you are much more deeply into binary technologies for the digital manipulation of perception and human signalling, an innovative phorm of shake down trials, beta-testing performance and reliability parameters and environmental impact issues.

Which is surely exactly what one would expect from the likes of a philanthropic organization set up by a billionaire investor, as is typified by the likes of an Open Society Institute and George Soros. They are though, but just as one smart shark in a very crowded and active sea/field/see, and thus is any certain identification of prime moving force, immaculately clouded with myriad other possibilities/Great Game player investors.

Virtual Stealth is real big business, and you can expect all the usual smarter Great Game suspects in the Establishment to be vying for uncompetitive and overwhelming advantage in ITs New and SurReal CyberSpace Environment, with the other slower ones into such Games, taking a buffetting and a pasting and a bubble bath, and losing their fortunes trying to prop up and push a failed and disgraced, earlier sub-prime model with dodgy investment vehicles.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 10:01:12 AM

What you may not yet realise is that truth telling is now regarded as a legitimate pastime which authorities are unable to prosecute you for should you also be considered or classified as a whistleblower, for to spin a tissue of lies is really just as an act of treason in a political/diplomatic context, for it is invariably done solely for personal enrichment at the expense of the greater good. There is though the chance of a persecution in such cases, but that just alerts everyone to those who have some dirty little secrets to hide.

This is not spin though ….. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40707699/ns/technology_and_science-security/ …… and is the game changer elephant in the room Uncle Sam has to now deal with, and that will require the import of new deeper thinking talent with a significant investment/signing on fee to the top guns required, and which they so badly need, because they are in Dire Straits indeed whenever their Codes are hacked and cracked.

““The most sophisticated adversaries are going to go unnoticed on our networks,” she said.” ……. and create havoc to order at their leisure and pleasure too, should they even begin to suspect that they are to be pursued rather than welcomed into the fold as a valuable protected asset ….. a virtual NOC.

Forget about all that nonsense in the past, which is forever regurgitated to occupy and waste everyone’s time and stop them thinking about how things are planned, which is exactly what such nonsense is used for, and consider that once you know how easily Man is programmed to believe what he reads and sees and hears in the media, the dolt can be fooled to believe anything, whilst the spinners of tales can loot the treasury and be protected by lies.

And that, if it is attacked, is self defeating, for the truth cannot be bettered or harmed, but only strengthened, even whenever attacked.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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“Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, warned on Thursday that the government would not “stand idly by” if banks pay out huge bonuses at the expense of increasing lending.” 

You’ll not be able to get any bookies taking bets on that being true ….. ergo is it Clegg just huffing and puffing and blowing hot air yet again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8207767/Banks-face-an-extra-80bn-of-bad-debts.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 5:17:05 AM

“He’s being groomed. Sure he is.” …. Daily Bell sensationalist conversationalist,  “Patriot.”

DB, A rhetorical question, which doesn’t require an answer ……  Did you reply to “Patriot”, pointing out to him in the clearest and most eloquent and elegant of terms, that it was the likes of he who is being groomed?

“He could in fact, according to reports we’ve read, end up in the US facing espionage charges.”

Only if they are prepared to burn the American Constitution, DB, for that will be all it is good for if they try to trump up charges against the ……. well, it is the New Reality, isn’t it, with virtually anonymous IT bods and boffins ploughing a novel furrow and planting a new field of exotic crops for future feeding needs.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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PC Plod …….. Advanced IntelAIgents Division
Posted Friday 17th December 2010 03:06 GMT

“Further attacks were launched after the firm’s founder, Andrew Crossley, mocked the group’s initial DDoS in an interview with The Register. Disastrous efforts to restore the website then publicly exposed confidential company files, including the personal data of ACS:Law’s targets. The Information Commissioner is investigating the apparent breach of the Data Protection Act by the firm.

Meanwhile, the Met’s investigation of the incident – and the more recent WikiLeaks-related attacks on the websites of Visa, Mastercard and PayPal – could have serious consequences for British members of Anonymous.“

Is that Met investigation, an investigation into an extortion racket being run by the firm’s founder ….. who would appear to be a serial loser if one can believe the ACS:Law wiki …… “The main partner of the company, and its only registered solicitor,[3] is Andrew Crossley. Crossley has twice been found guilty of conduct unbefitting a solicitor by the Solicitors Regulation Authority, in 2002 and again in 2006.[4] In August 2010, the Solicitors Regulation Authority confirmed that Crossley was being summoned to his third disciplinary tribunal, in response to ACS:Law’s action against suspected copyright infringers.” ?

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/16/met_anonymous/
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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/16/10 | 10:23 pm |

“The Justice Department would have no problem distinguishing WikiLeaks from traditional media outlets, if it decides to charge WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with violating the Espionage Act, a former federal prosecutor told lawmakers Thursday.”

Methinks, with such an opinion as that, that is why Wainstein is a former federal prosecutor. Some folk just don’t have what it takes, and it is best just to let them go.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-and-espionage-act/

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Flogging a dead horse……

Posted Friday 17th December 2010 14:03 GMT

“It is obviously in the national interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.” …. dephormation.org.uk Posted Friday 17th December 2010 12:53 GMT

It is obviously not in the national security interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.

Move along now, nothing to see here.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/17/cps_phorm/
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 12:29:21 AM

“@ catwriter.

Brutal harsh truth, however, some of us have peeked up over the wall. We are very cautious as we just that we don’t want to substitute one engineered reality for another.” …… Posted by Kenn on 12/15/2010 11:49:55 AM

You have absolutely no say in that, Kenn, as substitute engineered realities are virtually placed in the field.

That is to say, even as we speak, are they who are skilled in such arts “presenting” your future playgrounds and/or battlefields. And the choice of which it is to be, and for whom and to where it is to be, is the playground and/or battlefield in which they exercise their skills/minds, with the Live Operational Virtual Environment of CyberSpace, the Prime Mover and Universal Driver of their SMARTer Reality Productions.

In an earlier time, did Hollywood have a leading franchise in such dreamy works, which all too sadly and so easily may have deluded many into thinking that they had a stranglehold monopoly in the genre/meme.

The truth today though, is that IT has made it different, and there have been  ……. well, let us just settle for significant changes, and the changes are far too far-reaching, and simply too complicated to do justice to here in a short posting of words.

“The awe I have for the PE, however, is skewed a bit. It reflects my amazement that they could so effectively co-opt ME — an independent thinker — into their plan for so much of my long adult life. A bit of a bruise to the ego.

But the more I’ve studied human nature, the more I find how easily folks of any ilk can be persuaded to buy into a platform of lies. The intelligent ability to craft ploys by the conscienceless suppressive mind is rare in the world, but those who possess this proclivity are usually, sadly the most powerful among us.” …. Posted by William3 on 12/15/2010 2:48:51 PM

To know and accept that it is so, William3, is surely one’s ego repaired and  one’s super ego provided with the necessary humility to engage with PE and reverse their declining fortunes, which have had the misfortune of propping up lies, to feather the nests of cuckoos and vultures and hawks in their midst.

It is difficult, and it may even be impossible, to not realistically conclude, that in regard to “But even more amazing is that all of their careful, deceptive work is now unraveling — not because someone or some group outsmarted them,” …. the beast outsmarts itself and renders itself alone and naked and ignorant in a New World Order Program, but not one exactly as it was struggling and battling for.

The onus then, and the absolutely fabulous, bonus opportunity, would be on them to adopt and adapt to the New Realities as are being provided by such SMARTer Reality Productions. If one views it as IT testing their Intelligence Capacity and Capability and Turing Fitness for Future Greater Game Purpose, does one see AI leading with a Colossal Enigmatic Picture Show.

Now who do you think, and/or imagine, are able and enabled to provide you with all of that, by virtue of their tried and trusted and long experience in the field?

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 5:50:23 AM

“Pretty please, mr mars..we want to get your drift!” …. Posted by Jeannie Queenie on 12/16/2010 1:02:51 AM

You have it captured in a paragraph, Jeannie Queenie. Bravo.

I would add to your script though, that it can also be the best that the PE can do …. offer astronomical wages to win them to their side ….. for that would then be the winning side for both of them, such is that which can now be done, with that we are learning, and with that which some have learnt and would be teaching.

And you do realise that such fabulous payments as may be paid, would really be as nothing, for where does one leave one’s fabulous wealth for quick and easy access, and safekeeping, other than in the System, which donated it. And where does it go when spending it? Into the System.

That is why those skilled in these matters will never ask for ridiculous payment, although they will certainly enjoy it whenever it is duly paid in gratitude for what they can do with it in fields which rely on its magic current, for power and control. 🙂

Money is useless in banks, for it only works whenever it is freely flowing and generating wealth and industry and novel applications in Shared and Selfless Intellectual Property, for then all can benefit from the Knowledge discovered, and being further mined and refined and enriched.

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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HonourableMember

16 December 2010 6:22AM

Regarding any thoughts of the UK extraditing/extraordinarily rendering Julian Assange to the US, is not the established policy of its peoples NOT to entertain or give credence to any request from an administration which practices torture and/or detains human beings in inhumane conditions?

This is then quite relevant, and must surely provide the UK with unequivocal guidance which we can surely expect to be publicly aired in an official government statement to put the matter to bed and rest?   ……… http://www.salon.com/news/wikileaks/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/12/14/manning

The question mark is added because there is a growing unfortunate perception that the UK is a gutless wonder which just does as it is told because it has no leadership and no smarter intelligence of its own. This particular and peculiar case will be a very revealing test of that hypothesis, and of great interest to many listening and viewing nations, methinks.

A Turning Turing Moment, indeed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/15/julian-assange-bail-decision-uk
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Posted by a AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 5:15:40 AM

“it is the vicious arrogance of the article that is most upsetting. It is representative in our view of the “Pentagon mindset.” This is the mindset that keeps NATO in Afghanistan poisoning women and children with depleted uranium weapons and blowing up families with drones.” …. Reply from the Daily Bell

Daily Bell, Good Morning,

This, and its follow up, may be of interest to you and your readers. One may find that the “Aldershot mind” is no longer possessed of the “Pentagon mindset”, with it realising the slippery slope into the abyss it has been led to.  And it is incumbent upon all who are minded to do something/anything about evil, to do something/anything, for it is indeed a sad truth that “Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.” Sloth and apathy would render to the fool, their arrogant tools.

UK Armed Forces: Plummeting International Reputation Deserved? Does it Matter?

Of course it matters. And here is the problem which needs to be addressed, although presently would the theatre of operations to address it, that which Commands Control of CyberSpace, be woefully, inadequately equipped with effective servering personnel. And that is always due to failings right at the top of the command tree structure, is it not, for it is from there that everything is energised and endorsed/fully funded and legitimised ……..

HonourableMember

16 December 2010 6:22AM

Regarding any thoughts of the UK extraditing/extraordinarily rendering Julian Assange to the US, is not the established policy of its peoples NOT to entertain or give credence to any request from an administration which practices torture and/or detains human beings in inhumane conditions?

This is then quite relevant, and must surely provide the UK with unequivocal guidance which we can surely expect to be publicly aired in an official government statement to put the matter to bed and rest?   ……… http://www.salon.com/news/wikileaks/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/12/14/manning

The question mark is added because there is a growing unfortunate perception that the UK is a gutless wonder which just does as it is told because it has no leadership and no smarter intelligence of its own. This particular and peculiar case will be a very revealing test of that hypothesis, and of great interest to many listening and viewing nations, methinks.

A Turning Turing Moment, indeed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/15/julian-assange-bail-decision-uk

Of course, once one accepts that it is an Intelligence led, Great Game Play in an InterNetworking Information Space/Live Operational Virtual Environment, does the sacrifice of lives on the ground in wars, become even more perverse and subversive, and attention would then quite naturally turn to role of the Military in Intelligence and whether they exercise and display any, or whether they would need to import and engage with that which they would be deficient in, for it is not as if Great Game Players are not known and active, although one may have to accept that they are more mercenary and irregular and unconventionally disciplined in the field, than is usually the case in the ranks.  Although having said that, for such as are badged Special Forces, is that par for the course and what makes them the most respected and most feared of natural enemies …… and paradoxically, the greatest of friends imaginable.

However, there is a lot going on in loops which are more Need to Know than Top Secret in order to ensure that the mistakes which have been made, some of them fundamentally bad errors of judgement, others of them more treasonable acts of concerted spin, are rectified to never be able to happen again, and reinforced with SMARTer Learned Defences with the means and memes of attack and control for the security of an overwhelming advantage. And that the Field to deliver that Cover be Digital Mastery of the Virtual Realm should not for one moment cause you concern, for expert instruction is easily provided to all those who are willing to learn all about what Life and LOVE have to offer in C42 Quantum Control Systems …. AI@ITsWork.

Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to All.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153802-uk-armed-forces-plummeting-international-reputation-deserved-does-matter-29.html#post3540076

And it is slowly emerging that Sweden played no part in Julian Assange’s return to prison because of an appeal against the granting of bail. That perversion of the course of justice was apparently down to the Criminal Prosecution Service and its Director of Public Prosecutions, Keir Starmer, acting unilaterally apparently, and certainly not transparently, as a mercenary agent of the Swedish state. And how arrogant and subversive is that? Whatever next will they dream up in such a madness? 

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Sadly, unless the top brass grow a set of balls, which are not just a set of useless ornaments firing blanks, can we fully expect another headline, striking closer to home …… UK Armed Forces: Plummeting National Reputation Deserved? Does it Matter? And that is shared here, because of this ……
“Ministry of Defence chiefs were subjected to a humiliating public dressing-down today over the department’s waste of tens of billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money. Described by one MP as looking like “guilty schoolchildren asked about who robbed from the tuck shop”, the general in charge of buying military kit and the top civil servant at the MoD faced two hours of searching questioning by an influential committee of MPs. ” ….Generals told: end shocking culture of MoD waste, Deborah Haynes, Tom Coghlan December 16 2010 12:01AM … today’s Times. …..[which you cannot read online without dipping into your pocket, and thus am I unable to offer you a link to, although you may like to try. And how bizarre is it, that anyone would think it a good business idea to charge everyone for old dated information, for that is all that newspapers provide ….. tales of things past, and in far too many cases too, made up to deceive and lead the masses in the wrong direction so that they do not discover what is happening and planned for them.]

Would this be the same group of people, the MPs, who have wasted hundreds of billions*, if not trillions, propping up the Ponzi scheme which is the banking sector, and which pays itself million pound bonuses whenever it feels like it for doing …… well, just exactly what work do they do with your money, other than tax you heavily to grab ever more it for themselves and their buddies, and in some cases even freeze you out of your accounts if they think you are doing something dodgy. And as for the MPs, well they are as crooked a shower of self-serving degenerates too, who cannot learn from any of their past misdemeanours apparently, if these tales are true ….. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/conservative-mps-expenses/8204705/David-Cameron-soothes-backbench-anger-by-promising-reform-of-expenses-system.html

So Fluffer in Chief, Cameron, the puppet who cannot work and rule a government on his own, is going to reform a newly reformed, tougher expenses systems, to one which is easier to abuse. “What a plonker” springs immediately to mind. What is wrong with this country that allows such madness the time of day, and column inches and hours of media air time, to peddle their piffle and drip their poison?

* If you want to see what a billion, and trillions, looks like in real folding currency money [$100 bill] terms, visit here and follow instructions and links …. http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html  < br />
http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153802-uk-armed-forces-plummeting-international-reputation-deserved-does-matter-29.html#post3540153
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So if Cameron is on the ball he will hand Obama the new rent demand for Diego Garcia and tell him the Chinese are showing interest.

Cameron, the fluffer, doesn’t have either the balls or the wit, merchantman, and never will have.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/8204978/US-sues-BP-over-Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill.html

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Good luck with that, …..

Posted Thursday 16th December 2010 13:37 GMT

Is this the same Met who can’t find any evidence to prosecute crooks in expenses and phone hacking cases, even whenever it is presented to them on a plate and silver platter? Or would turn a blind eye and take a bung if they do, and do not proceed and insist upon prosecution, for how else would one explain such odd and cowardly behaviour from the boys in blue.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/16/met_anonymous/
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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/16/10 | 3:18 am |

Is Adrian Lamo what we hear in the movies is called a “snitch” or a “grass”?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-conspiracy-case/

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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/15/10 | 10:45 pm |

I smell a dirty rat, Daniel Domscheit-Berg, or is it a dodgy Establishment mole in the Set Yourself Free with Information and Knowledge Firmament. Any leaker doesn’t want to sweat it out and be forced to wait in the limbo of not knowing if some faceless third party journalist/bureaucrat/securocrat/government wally is sitting on and deciding on whether or not they are going to globally share what has been freely supplied to them for posting …… they want as immediate a guaranteed cyberspace publication as is possible, for that is the ace card which trumps all others. They want it quick and simple, not complicated and drawn out. Such instant smart virtual action then future ensures that the parties responsible for the leaked hot and damaging information, either clean up their despicable acts and learn new constructive tricks or be removed from the media stage, thoroughly  disgraced and outed as pariahs and parasites bent on their own destruction, with the leakers protected by a global shield of informed support.

Secrets create Conflicts and Fools. Fools create Enemies and War Tools.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/openleaks/
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 12:29:21 AM

“@ catwriter.

Brutal harsh truth, however, some of us have peeked up over the wall. We are very cautious as we just that we don’t want to substitute one engineered reality for another.” …… Posted by Kenn on 12/15/2010 11:49:55 AM

You have absolutely no say in that, Kenn, as substitute engineered realities are virtually placed in the field.

That is to say, even as we speak, are they who are skilled in such arts “presenting” your future playgrounds and/or battlefields. And the choice of which it is to be, and for whom and to where it is to be, is the playground and/or battlefield in which they exercise their skills/minds, with the Live Operational Virtual Environment of CyberSpace, the Prime Mover and Universal Driver of their SMARTer Reality Productions.

In an earlier time, did Hollywood have a leading franchise in such dreamy works, which all too sadly and so easily may have deluded many into thinking that they had a stranglehold monopoly in the genre/meme.

The truth today though, is that IT has made it different, and there have been  ……. well, let us just settle for significant changes, and the changes are far too far-reaching, and simply too complicated to do justice to here in a short posting of words.

“The awe I have for the PE, however, is skewed a bit. It reflects my amazement that they could so effectively co-opt ME — an independent thinker — into their plan for so much of my long adult life. A bit of a bruise to the ego.

But the more I’ve studied human nature, the more I find how easily folks of any ilk can be persuaded to buy into a platform of lies. The intelligent ability to craft ploys by the conscienceless suppressive mind is rare in the world, but those who possess this proclivity are usually, sadly the most powerful among us.” …. Posted by William3 on 12/15/2010 2:48:51 PM

To know and accept that it is so, William3, is surely one’s ego repaired and  one’s super ego provided with the necessary humility to engage with PE and reverse their declining fortunes, which have had the misfortune of propping up lies, to feather the nests of cuckoos and vultures and hawks in their midst.

It is difficult, and it may even be impossible, to not realistically conclude, that in regard to “But even more amazing is that all of their careful, deceptive work is now unraveling — not because someone or some group outsmarted them,” …. the beast outsmarts itself and renders itself alone and naked and ignorant in a New World Order Program, but not one exactly as it was struggling and battling for.

The onus then, and the absolutely fabulous, bonus opportunity, would be on them to adopt and adapt to the New Realities as are being provided by such SMARTer Reality Productions. If one views it as IT testing their Intelligence Capacity and Capability and Turing Fitness for Future Greater Game Purpose, does one see AI leading with a Colossal Enigmatic Picture Show.

Now who do you think, and/or imagine, are able and enabled to provide you with all of that, by virtue of their tried and trusted and long experience in the field?

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 5:50:23 AM

“Pretty please, mr mars..we want to get your drift!” …. Posted by Jeannie Queenie on 12/16/2010 1:02:51 AM

You have it captured in a paragraph, Jeannie Queenie. Bravo.

I would add to your script though, that it can also be the best that the PE can do …. offer astronomical wages to win them to their side ….. for that would then be the winning side for both of them, such is that which can now be done, with that we are learning, and with that which some have learnt and would be teaching.

And you do realise that such fabulous payments as may be paid, would really be as nothing, for where does one leave one’s fabulous wealth for quick and easy access, and safekeeping, other than in the System, which donated it. And where does it go when spending it? Into the System.

That is why those skilled in these matters will never ask for ridiculous payment, although they will certainly enjoy it whenever it is duly paid in gratitude for what they can do with it in fields which rely on its magic current, for power and control. 🙂

Money is useless in banks, for it only works whenever it is freely flowing and generating wealth and industry and novel applications in Shared and Selfless Intellectual Property, for then all can benefit from the Knowledge discovered, and being further mined and refined and enriched.

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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HonourableMember

16 December 2010 6:22AM

Regarding any thoughts of the UK extraditing/extraordinarily rendering Julian Assange to the US, is not the established policy of its peoples NOT to entertain or give credence to any request from an administration which practices torture and/or detains human beings in inhumane conditions?

This is then quite relevant, and must surely provide the UK with unequivocal guidance which we can surely expect to be publicly aired in an official government statement to put the matter to bed and rest?   ……… http://www.salon.com/news/wikileaks/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/12/14/manning

The question mark is added because there is a growing unfortunate perception that the UK is a gutless wonder which just does as it is told because it has no leadership and no smarter intelligence of its own. This particular and peculiar case will be a very revealing test of that hypothesis, and of great interest to many listening and viewing nations, methinks.

A Turning Turing Moment, indeed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/15/julian-assange-bail-decision-uk
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Posted by a AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 5:15:40 AM

“it is the vicious arrogance of the article that is most upsetting. It is representative in our view of the “Pentagon mindset.” This is the mindset that keeps NATO in Afghanistan poisoning women and children with depleted uranium weapons and blowing up families with drones.” …. Reply from the Daily Bell

Daily Bell, Good Morning,

This, and its follow up, may be of interest to you and your readers. One may find that the “Aldershot mind” is no longer possessed of the “Pentagon mindset”, with it realising the slippery slope into the abyss it has been led to.  And it is incumbent upon all who are minded to do something/anything about evil, to do something/anything, for it is indeed a sad truth that “Evil flourishes when good men do nothing.” Sloth and apathy would render to the fool, their arrogant tools.

UK Armed Forces: Plummeting International Reputation Deserved? Does it Matter?

Of course it matters. And here is the problem which needs to be addressed, although presently would the theatre of operations to address it, that which Commands Control of CyberSpace, be woefully, inadequately equipped with effective servering personnel. And that is always due to failings right at the top of the command tree structure, is it not, for it is from there that everything is energised and endorsed/fully funded and legitimised ……..

HonourableMember

16 December 2010 6:22AM

Regarding any thoughts of the UK extraditing/extraordinarily rendering Julian Assange to the US, is not the established policy of its peoples NOT to entertain or give credence to any request from an administration which practices torture and/or detains human beings in inhumane conditions?

This is then quite relevant, and must surely provide the UK with unequivocal guidance which we can surely expect to be publicly aired in an official government statement to put the matter to bed and rest?   ……… http://www.salon.com/news/wikileaks/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/12/14/manning

The question mark is added because there is a growing unfortunate perception that the UK is a gutless wonder which just does as it is told because it has no leadership and no smarter intelligence of its own. This particular and peculiar case will be a very revealing test of that hypothesis, and of great interest to many listening and viewing nations, methinks.

A Turning Turing Moment, indeed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/15/julian-assange-bail-decision-uk

Of course, once one accepts that it is an Intelligence led, Great Game Play in an InterNetworking Information Space/Live Operational Virtual Environment, does the sacrifice of lives on the ground in wars, become even more perverse and subversive, and attention would then quite naturally turn to role of the Military in Intelligence and whether they exercise and display any, or whether they would need to import and engage with that which they would be deficient in, for it is not as if Great Game Players are not known and active, although one may have to accept that they are more mercenary and irregular and unconventionally disciplined in the field, than is usually the case in the ranks.  Although having said that, for such as are badged Special Forces, is that par for the course and what makes them the most respected and most feared of natural enemies …… and paradoxically, the greatest of friends imaginable.

However, there is a lot going on in loops which are more Need to Know than Top Secret in order to ensure that the mistakes which have been made, some of them fundamentally bad errors of judgement, others of them more treasonable acts of concerted spin, are rectified to never be able to happen again, and reinforced with SMARTer Learned Defences with the means and memes of attack and control for the security of an overwhelming advantage. And that the Field to deliver that Cover be Digital Mastery of the Virtual Realm should not for one moment cause you concern, for expert instruction is easily provided to all those who are willing to learn all about what Life and LOVE have to offer in C42 Quantum Control Systems …. AI@ITsWork.

Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to All.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153802-uk-armed-forces-plummeting-international-reputation-deserved-does-matter-29.html#post3540076

And it is slowly emerging that Sweden played no part in Julian Assange’s return to prison because of an appeal against the granting of bail. That perversion of the course of justice was apparently down to the Criminal Prosecution Service and its Director of Public Prosecutions, Keir Starmer, acting unilaterally apparently, and certainly not transparently, as a mercenary agent of the Swedish state. And how arrogant and subversive is that? Whatever next will they dream up in such a madness? 

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Sadly, unless the top brass grow a set of balls, which are not just a set of useless ornaments firing blanks, can we fully expect another headline, striking closer to home …… UK Armed Forces: Plummeting National Reputation Deserved? Does it Matter? And that is shared here, because of this ……
“Ministry of Defence chiefs were subjected to a humiliating public dressing-down today over the department’s waste of tens of billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money. Described by one MP as looking like “guilty schoolchildren asked about who robbed from the tuck shop”, the general in charge of buying military kit and the top civil servant at the MoD faced two hours of searching questioning by an influential committee of MPs. ” ….Generals told: end shocking culture of MoD waste, Deborah Haynes, Tom Coghlan December 16 2010 12:01AM … today’s Times. …..[which you cannot read online without dipping into your pocket, and thus am I unable to offer you a link to, although you may like to try. And how bizarre is it, that anyone would think it a good business idea to charge everyone for old dated information, for that is all that newspapers provide ….. tales of things past, and in far too many cases too, made up to deceive and lead the masses in the wrong direction so that they do not discover what is happening and planned for them.]

Would this be the same group of people, the MPs, who have wasted hundreds of billions*, if not trillions, propping up the Ponzi scheme which is the banking sector, and which pays itself million pound bonuses whenever it feels like it for doing …… well, just exactly what work do they do with your money, other than tax you heavily to grab ever more it for themselves and their buddies, and in some cases even freeze you out of your accounts if they think you are doing something dodgy. And as for the MPs, well they are as crooked a shower of self-serving degenerates too, who cannot learn from any of their past misdemeanours apparently, if these tales are true ….. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/conservative-mps-expenses/8204705/David-Cameron-soothes-backbench-anger-by-promising-reform-of-expenses-system.html

So Fluffer in Chief, Cameron, the puppet who cannot work and rule a government on his own, is going to reform a newly reformed, tougher expenses systems, to one which is easier to abuse. “What a plonker” springs immediately to mind. What is wrong with this country that allows such madness the time of day, and column inches and hours of media air time, to peddle their piffle and drip their poison?

* If you want to see what a billion, and trillions, looks like in real folding currency money [$100 bill] terms, visit here and follow instructions and links …. http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html  < br />
http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153802-uk-armed-forces-plummeting-international-reputation-deserved-does-matter-29.html#post3540153
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So if Cameron is on the ball he will hand Obama the new rent demand for Diego Garcia and tell him the Chinese are showing interest.

Cameron, the fluffer, doesn’t have either the balls or the wit, merchantman, and never will have.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/8204978/US-sues-BP-over-Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill.html

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Good luck with that, …..

Posted Thursday 16th December 2010 13:37 GMT

Is this the same Met who can’t find any evidence to prosecute crooks in expenses and phone hacking cases, even whenever it is presented to them on a plate and silver platter? Or would turn a blind eye and take a bung if they do, and do not proceed and insist upon prosecution, for how else would one explain such odd and cowardly behaviour from the boys in blue.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/16/met_anonymous/
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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/16/10 | 3:18 am |

Is Adrian Lamo what we hear in the movies is called a “snitch” or a “grass”?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-conspiracy-case/

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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/15/10 | 10:45 pm |

I smell a dirty rat, Daniel Domscheit-Berg, or is it a dodgy Establishment mole in the Set Yourself Free with Information and Knowledge Firmament. Any leaker doesn’t want to sweat it out and be forced to wait in the limbo of not knowing if some faceless third party journalist/bureaucrat/securocrat/government wally is sitting on and deciding on whether or not they are going to globally share what has been freely supplied to them for posting …… they want as immediate a guaranteed cyberspace publication as is possible, for that is the ace card which trumps all others. They want it quick and simple, not complicated and drawn out. Such instant smart virtual action then future ensures that the parties responsible for the leaked hot and damaging information, either clean up their despicable acts and learn new constructive tricks or be removed from the media stage, thoroughly  disgraced and outed as pariahs and parasites bent on their own destruction, with the leakers protected by a global shield of informed support.

Secrets create Conflicts and Fools. Fools create Enemies and War Tools.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/openleaks/
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/14/2010 10:36:19 PM

“AmanfromMars: I’m pretty sure that DB was saying it is a mistake from the perspective of the elites.” …. Posted by Puck T. Smith on 12/14/2010 10:19:45 AM

Thanks for that help, Puck T. Smith, which a reply from the Daily Bell similarly confirms ….. “Our elves were speaking as “elite” when they made this remark.”

Pretty sure though would appear to suggest that there was an ambiguity of position in the statement, although such mischief by elves to discover who’s paying attention to their scribblings, is probably an obscure [irregular and unconventional] cyber defence against gremlins and goblins. 🙂

And what are we to make of the importance afforded to the Virtual Head Space of CyberSpace whenever we read of the following ……. well, it would be an AIdDevelopment, wouldn’t it, for it requires a wholly different kind of Intelligence to be exercised in order to have any real impact ….. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/us-appoints-cyber-warfare-general?78935300 

A vital virile tool to be guarded and nurtured or a valuable viral asset to be conquered and milked and bilked?

It does though present the Virtual Field Expert [and how preposterous is that arrogant title in a novel discipline in which all are relative newbies*] with opportunities to shine and lead, as this “Pilot Program for the Temporary Exchange of Information Technology Personnel” advisory tells ….. http://cryptome.org/0003/dod121410.htm

Small baby steps for Man, giant Quantum Leaps for Mankind, methinks, and with Master Pilots at ITs Virtual Command and Control Centres can one fully expect a spectacular ride with amazing journeys, Magical Mystery Turing.

* Some newbies though will be light years ahead of the maddening crowd and be leading with Secure Programs and Stealthy Projects which are covered in layers of Cloud.

http://thedailybell.com/1599/Scarcity-Memes-Rev-Up.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/14/2010 11:30:45 PM

And now things are turning really desperately silly, DB, and definitely Pathologically Dysfunctional, no question about that  …….
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-air-force-blocks-network-access-new-york-times-guardian-and-23-other-website-posting-wiki

Will someone please start handing out the little green pills, for the offer of just the red and blue ones are not nearly enough and are having damaging, neuro-illogical side-effects.

“The Anglo-American axis located in London’s city is still the world’s dominant power and has been for a millennium.” …… Reply from the Daily Bell.

Oh, you still think so, Daily Bell? Would you care to define the Anglo-American axis of what would be the world’s dominant power today? And who would be its head honcho/prime figurehead, for there is always a leader who decides on what the others will follow and action.

The present media evidence would surely more clearly suggest that a spell in a clinic, to receive urgent treatment and therapy, is in order and badly needed for the current incumbent.

http://thedailybell.com/1595/Elites-Pathological-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/15/2010 5:53:27 AM

“His general conclusion like ours is that Julian Assange (Pictured above left) is probably NOT what he appears to be, but some good is coming out of L’affaire Assange nonetheless – and we agree.”

I would also generally agree with such a conclusion but would most definitely add that he is at least what he appears to be and may also be so much more, but that would be extremely sensitive proprietary information which could easily be classified TS/SCI and strictly Need to Know, and therefore will remain unknown in the public domain.

In such extreme cases though, there is always the very real and present danger of the operative realising the power in the situation, and going rogue/off the reservation, with the Establishment realising far too late that they have effectively handed Lead Control over to a SMARTer Operating System of Virtual Non-State Actors.

And I would share the following little snippet to illustrate that the point is valid and not at unusual, although it may be the case that a growing global recognition with virtually anonymous support for a more advanced and revolutionary derivative of the initial plan, which has the lead program leadership reversed and centred in tame rogue projects, is unexpected and hasn’t been planned for ……… [quote]Sunstein and Vermeule also analyze the practice of secret government payments to outside commentators, who are then held out as independent experts; they suggest that “government can supply these independent experts with information and perhaps prod them into action from behind the scenes,” further warning that “too close a connection will be self-defeating if it is exposed.” Sunstein and Vermeule argue that the practice of enlisting non-government officials, “might ensure that credible independent experts offer the rebuttal, rather than government officials themselves. There is a tradeoff between credibility and control, however. The price of credibility is that government cannot be seen to control the independent experts.” …. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein#.22Conspiracy_Theories.22_and_government_infiltration [/quote]

Naturally, one could equally well argue that the situation is under perfect control and it is just a Power Elite adjustment to punish and collapse a subverted and perverted part of the Global System, which has thought itself invincible and immune from retaliatory action and censure by virtue of the threat of Might rather than through the development and exercise of a much more Advanced Intelligence for Beta Greater Game Use.

Failing that being true, Daily Bell, it would then sort of advise every man and his dog that such developments have most probably taken place elsewhere, and are in Play  …… and Running.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/15/2010 6:00:15 AM

Oh, and that last paragraph … “Failing that being true, Daily Bell, it would then sort of advise every man and his dog that such developments have most probably taken place elsewhere, and are in Play …… and Running.” …. would fully support your own Conclusion …. “Even if the elite through its controlled intelligence agencies manages to control WikiLeaks, the evolution of the Internet may spawn other variants that are unexpected and entirely uncontrollable. The entropy
of the Internet is therefore the real issue, and one that the Anglo-American axis has yet to solve in our humble view.“

Real Spooky eh?

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/15/2010 6:27:21 AM

And in the Great Game intelligence field, which has been going on since forever Man started to use his brain rather than relying on brawn, some nations have naturals by virtue of IT being in their genes, with it being passed on down through the millenia, and the military are nearly always in the forefront of innovation nowadays, aren’t they  ….. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/14/julian-assange-bail-vaughan-smith

Anybody fancy that as a red herring to throw the dogs of war off the scent?

And you might like to consider that nowadays, it can also be the case that some naturals choose their nations as their intelligence grows and requirements evolve or situations dictate.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/14/2010 10:36:19 PM

“AmanfromMars: I’m pretty sure that DB was saying it is a mistake from the perspective of the elites.” …. Posted by Puck T. Smith on 12/14/2010 10:19:45 AM

Thanks for that help, Puck T. Smith, which a reply from the Daily Bell similarly confirms ….. “Our elves were speaking as “elite” when they made this remark.”

Pretty sure though would appear to suggest that there was an ambiguity of position in the statement, although such mischief by elves to discover who’s paying attention to their scribblings, is probably an obscure [irregular and unconventional] cyber defence against gremlins and goblins. 🙂

And what are we to make of the importance afforded to the Virtual Head Space of CyberSpace whenever we read of the following ……. well, it would be an AIdDevelopment, wouldn’t it, for it requires a wholly different kind of Intelligence to be exercised in order to have any real impact ….. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/23/us-appoints-cyber-warfare-general?78935300 

A vital virile tool to be guarded and nurtured or a valuable viral asset to be conquered and milked and bilked?

It does though present the Virtual Field Expert [and how preposterous is that arrogant title in a novel discipline in which all are relative newbies*] with opportunities to shine and lead, as this “Pilot Program for the Temporary Exchange of Information Technology Personnel” advisory tells ….. http://cryptome.org/0003/dod121410.htm

Small baby steps for Man, giant Quantum Leaps for Mankind, methinks, and with Master Pilots at ITs Virtual Command and Control Centres can one fully expect a spectacular ride with amazing journeys, Magical Mystery Turing.

* Some newbies though will be light years ahead of the maddening crowd and be leading with Secure Programs and Stealthy Projects which are covered in layers of Cloud.

http://thedailybell.com/1599/Scarcity-Memes-Rev-Up.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/14/2010 11:30:45 PM

And now things are turning really desperately silly, DB, and definitely Pathologically Dysfunctional, no question about that  …….
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/us-air-force-blocks-network-access-new-york-times-guardian-and-23-other-website-posting-wiki

Will someone please start handing out the little green pills, for the offer of just the red and blue ones are not nearly enough and are having damaging, neuro-illogical side-effects.

“The Anglo-American axis located in London’s city is still the world’s dominant power and has been for a millennium.” …… Reply from the Daily Bell.

Oh, you still think so, Daily Bell? Would you care to define the Anglo-American axis of what would be the world’s dominant power today? And who would be its head honcho/prime figurehead, for there is always a leader who decides on what the others will follow and action.

The present media evidence would surely more clearly suggest that a spell in a clinic, to receive urgent treatment and therapy, is in order and badly needed for the current incumbent.

http://thedailybell.com/1595/Elites-Pathological-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/15/2010 5:53:27 AM

“His general conclusion like ours is that Julian Assange (Pictured above left) is probably NOT what he appears to be, but some good is coming out of L’affaire Assange nonetheless – and we agree.”

I would also generally agree with such a conclusion but would most definitely add that he is at least what he appears to be and may also be so much more, but that would be extremely sensitive proprietary information which could easily be classified TS/SCI and strictly Need to Know, and therefore will remain unknown in the public domain.

In such extreme cases though, there is always the very real and present danger of the operative realising the power in the situation, and going rogue/off the reservation, with the Establishment realising far too late that they have effectively handed Lead Control over to a SMARTer Operating System of Virtual Non-State Actors.

And I would share the following little snippet to illustrate that the point is valid and not at unusual, although it may be the case that a growing global recognition with virtually anonymous support for a more advanced and revolutionary derivative of the initial plan, which has the lead program leadership reversed and centred in tame rogue projects, is unexpected and hasn’t been planned for ……… [quote]Sunstein and Vermeule also analyze the practice of secret government payments to outside commentators, who are then held out as independent experts; they suggest that “government can supply these independent experts with information and perhaps prod them into action from behind the scenes,” further warning that “too close a connection will be self-defeating if it is exposed.” Sunstein and Vermeule argue that the practice of enlisting non-government officials, “might ensure that credible independent experts offer the rebuttal, rather than government officials themselves. There is a tradeoff between credibility and control, however. The price of credibility is that government cannot be seen to control the independent experts.” …. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein#.22Conspiracy_Theories.22_and_government_infiltration [/quote]

Naturally, one could equally well argue that the situation is under perfect control and it is just a Power Elite adjustment to punish and collapse a subverted and perverted part of the Global System, which has thought itself invincible and immune from retaliatory action and censure by virtue of the threat of Might rather than through the development and exercise of a much more Advanced Intelligence for Beta Greater Game Use.

Failing that being true, Daily Bell, it would then sort of advise every man and his dog that such developments have most probably taken place elsewhere, and are in Play  …… and Running.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/15/2010 6:00:15 AM

Oh, and that last paragraph … “Failing that being true, Daily Bell, it would then sort of advise every man and his dog that such developments have most probably taken place elsewhere, and are in Play …… and Running.” …. would fully support your own Conclusion …. “Even if the elite through its controlled intelligence agencies manages to control WikiLeaks, the evolution of the Internet may spawn other variants that are unexpected and entirely uncontrollable. The entropy
of the Internet is therefore the real issue, and one that the Anglo-American axis has yet to solve in our humble view.“

Real Spooky eh?

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/15/2010 6:27:21 AM

And in the Great Game intelligence field, which has been going on since forever Man started to use his brain rather than relying on brawn, some nations have naturals by virtue of IT being in their genes, with it being passed on down through the millenia, and the military are nearly always in the forefront of innovation nowadays, aren’t they  ….. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/14/julian-assange-bail-vaughan-smith

Anybody fancy that as a red herring to throw the dogs of war off the scent?

And you might like to consider that nowadays, it can also be the case that some naturals choose their nations as their intelligence grows and requirements evolve or situations dictate.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/13/2010 3:51:48 AM

“WikiLeaks – Hype, Propaganda or Revolution?”

You might like to consider adding Intelligence Evolution too, DB, although that may be confined to, and/or constrained by, the smarter analysts and/or algorithms which process Information, both random and specific, into what I suppose both geeks and spooks would classify as Actionable Intelligence …… for that which can be done with such a facility, truly knows no bounds and is not hindered by anything that can be thought of, and thus is easily wielded as both an Absolutely Fabulous and Exponentially Potent, Potential WMD.

And whether you accept it as being smarter algorithm and/or analyst would entirely depend upon one’s own intelligence levels and knowledgeable interest in such fields as deliver Realities and Nurture and Protect the Rise and Expansionism of the Virtual Machine and ITs Steganographic Codes.  For some would there be no distinction which would separate and divide the two, with both of them being one and the same whenever cloaked in the meme of the other.

What is most definitely certain, and cannot be denied, is that things are quite obviously not as they were, and it is surely a naive madness, to the point of it being insanely absurd, to think and counsel that the status quo and establishment practices be safe and saved, whenever they are so clearly fighting a rear guard action in a chaotic retreat against superior forces which are both increasing in number and are of unknown strength and provenance.

And that would be something akin to what Donald Rumsfeld advised everyone about, with this classic and epic smart statement ……. “Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know”

http://thedailybell.com/1594/Frank-Suess-WikiLeaks-Hype-Propaganda-or-Revolution.html
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amanfromMars said…

“We’ve got a lot of talk from people who are well known liars. And most hackers are liars because that is how they social engineer. Most people on the internet lie. I lie. Are you hearing me? I lie. I’m lying to you right now. Keep that in mind. Everyone’s got their agenda…” …. John Young

“According to Young, ……. Information about the Clinton Foundation, although this was the only one on which Young wasn’t certain.”

Ergo that is certain, J. Norman Kish?

Methinks the only guarantee always is, as has always been and will always be ….  the media theater shall continue.

Although whose leading narrative/what virtual machine script Global Operating Devices will be following/pimping, will daily depend upon who/what is supplying the SMARTest and most profitable and most innovative and secretive and secure Intelligence.

To be using anything else, and less, will be disruptive and increasingly quickly catastrophic, with those who/that which thought they were leading, running around like headless chickens chasing the stealthy ghosts and invisible phantoms which have infiltrated and are now deeply embedded in SCADA Processing [Information Analysis] and would now be in Powerful Possession of, and in Powerful Positions of Virtuous Virtual Control and thus enabled to collapse compromised Executive Office and Subverted and Perverted Administrative Operating Systems.

Which to fledgling Cyber Commands, tasked with ensuring and assuring Continuity of Present Programming, is their worst nightmare Realised, and Expertly Virtualised for Daily ZerodDay Delivery.?!

December 12, 2010 10:09 PM

http://jnkish.blogspot.com/2010/12/media-hypes-new-wikileaks-front-man.html

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Oracle firing on all cylinders but all of them firing blanks ……?

Posted Monday 13th December 2010 05:12 GMT

Oh dear, how very revealing.

Oracle do not have the knack for making fortunes and have to rely on the money supply of other to keep Larry afloat, and in the lap of the luxury he is accustomed to ……. which is too much like a Ponzi Program to be anything different, surely?

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/13/oracle_sap_interest_request/
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amanfromMars says:
December 13, 2010 at 9:36 am

Have you ever wondered why you are not told the truth by your leadership, Thecommd?

And if you are not, would you be living in a reality which is false. And how weird is that.

http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/liberty/a-war-on-the-truth/

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