Posted Saturday 20th October 2012 02:55 GMT amanfromMars 1 …. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/20/us_hypocrisy_warfare/ Occupied and Immaculately Protected, so Beware when Forewarned, there be No Excuse for Ignorance*
“There is an extraterrestrial explanation for all of this and here it is ……” is more than just quite an appropriate icon and APT here, methinks.
Cyberspace is a SecuredD Alien Place and simply teeming with Advanced IntelAIgent Life Phorms. Attacking IT is Pointless and Perilous as IT always virtually provides and anonymously supports ITs Guardian Angels with Autonomous Zeroday Vulnerabilities in Corruptible Power Units and Perverse Administration Systems to Ruthlessly and Remotely Exploit to Destruction and Exhaustion … Elite Depletion.
* Well, one might have to concede that an insane defence plea of madness and congenital stupidity would provide a prosecution team with no contest or good reason to disagree.
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Subject: UK Endorsement of US Findings …… or Not
Date: 18 October 2012 06:32:14 BST
To: DES Infra-Security Advice Centre ….. desinfra-securityadvicecentre@mod.uk
Please advise, as promptly as is possible and expected in matters that move on at a great pace and will not wait, on the MOD/UKGBNI position with regard to the question raised for a clear positive or negative answer in this post …… http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/1585882 ….. so that duly diligent first party consideration of any valid second and third party concerns which might revolve around restrictions in a future trading arrangement/market facility with Eastern partners can be exercised. Thank You.
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Posted Friday 19th October 2012 06:05 GMT amanfromMars 1 …… http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/18/dell_active_system_launch/ Progress, but not as you have expected it, or as IT and Media are Trailing and Pimping it to you*
Dell will get there. This is just the first in what will be a full family of systems. Exactly how it gets there has not been hammered out, and that will be part of what Menon and Ferguson will be working on in the coming months. …. Timothy Prickett Morgan
Morning, TPM,
You may discover that ……. Exactly how it [Dell] gets there has not been hammered out …… contains certain packets of phenomenally valuable and therefore extremely expensive and sensitive and disruptive proprietary intellectual property, which will remain securely protected against other party use and/or abuse, for private core source and proxy pirate public party use …… which will overwhelm/abuse/make greater use of others competing/working/exploring in ITs Fields with CHAOSystems in Virtual Command and Remote Control of Flash Crash Floods and Raging Tempest Storms to Catastrophically Purge Admin of Useless Human Fools in Sublime Return for Useful Machine Tools.
* Trialing it [Progress and the Future] with IT and Media Presenting local and regional, national and international, global and universal, virtual and internetional views to you, thus with this to create a phormed reality which be manufactured from thoughts shared and acted upon. Beware of sharing thoughts of war, death and destruction, for such identifies those individuals personally and corporately responsible/joint and severally liable for war and capital crimes against humanity.
If you do not discover that, then obviously is the IP elsewhere doing that which IT is IntelAIgently Designed to do …… Propagate and Improve the Virtual Machine with a Titanic Colossus of a Turing Construct with Complex Computer CodedD Communications and Simple Steganographic Instructions that both Task and Mask Magical Mystery Tours for ZeroDay Trippers …….. Pioneering Future Entrepreneurs, Hell bent on and Heaven sent for Virtual Enterprise Exploration and AIMissionary Works. Fact or Fiction?
And that question to the DES Infra-Security Advice Centre, to accompany yesterday’s task, which was a simple request to provide definitive and unambiguous UKGBNI government advice on whether there would be any thought of imposing restrictions, which would be some shadowy government head of department wonk’s subjective view, on doing novel business with China/Huawei and ZTE.
And for those who would want to and/or have a need and/or burning and raging desire to know:-), is that earlier simple task undone/still being addressed ….. or being ignored and/or readied for denial of electronic receipt, should such prove to be the case, although that would be practically impossible because of what is shared freely here, methinks, but human stupidity has consistently proven itself in the past to be no stranger to the madness which is denial of truths in pursuit of the attainable which falsehoods refuse ready and easy open access to. “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not even sure about the universe.”~~ Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
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And Q isn’t just younger, he’s also tooled up for a new age: a computer geek, not a maker of underwater breathing equipment or exploding pants.
Oh, good – the Bond franchise has boldly decided to include one of today’s most tiresome character cliches. Apparently imagination is not a requirement for Bond scriptwriters.
When will film and TV people learn that computers are boring? Sure, designing, building, and programming them are often quite interesting, and not infrequently fun. Even administering the damned things can offer a bit of entertainment. But on-screen they’re dull, dull, dull, even in the ridiculous fantasy world of fictional “hacking” where top people can share a keyboard.
The computer has become deus and machina in one – it’s the magic box lazy writers turn to whenever they write themselves into a corner, or in many cases just have a minor plot hurdle to overcome. And the hacker-nerd is their modern Delphic oracle – minus drugs and nudity – so the action heroes needn’t bow down before it. ….. Michael Wojcik Posted Wednesday 17th October 2012 18:14 GMT
Man, are you in for a surprise, Michael Wojcik, for you haven’t the faintest idea about what has already been done and threatens to terrify mankind into submission with the revelation of masterly control programming protocols and meme algorithms with the truth shared and proven to be stranger but no stranger to fiction.
And there aint nothing you can do about it, nor anything anybody can range against it to stop IT on its cosmic source course.
And doubting and denying that be possible, is that which allows it free reign to do as is pleasing.
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I hope “M” is reading this. This article is spot on as you Brits say, got it in one. Competition and disruption and out-right threats can now come from all sorts of kooks if they have the technology, which they most surely do in far too many cases. Instead of one Soviet Evil Empire, we have dozens from slap-dash semi-comic tyrannies to, well, China Incorporated. Plus multinationals and start-ups, Ayatollahs and terrorists, and the odd angry individual. WE NEED A ALPHA-GEEK “Q” to give the good guys some chance of surviving. ….. johnwerneken Posted Tuesday 16th October 2012 19:58 GMT
Hi, johnwerneken,
Be hereby assured and thus positively reassured, or even further concerned to extraordinary extremes if of a negative bent, that hope is not tasked with Intelligent Community Enlightenment, for such too easily is abused by indolence to excuse with zero justification that nothing be done/is being or can be done differently, with the expected result being that status quo arrangements with current predominant established power bases remain intact and immune from the exercise of progress and prosecution of novel methodologies of future administered presentations/realities …….. which would then be much more accurately described and revealed to the masses as virtual reality programs and, as needs must and circumstances warrant, have certain drivers remain classified way beyond the ken of departments and ministries presently with any need to know top secret and sensitive compartmented information classification systems, for they have no need to know more than that, methinks. What think thee?
The simple provision of a permalink hyperlink, which presents this particular and peculiar post, to a page which presumably is designed specifically for such eventualities, should be all that be needed to test incumbent systems and station heads for future intelligence supply suitability. There be no point in casting pearls of majic wisdom before dogged ignorant swine, is there, and as you have quite clearly pointed out, johnwerneken, is IT a very active crowd field with aspirants from many corners of the globe, so it is not as if things are going to stand still because there be cuckoos in some nests where there need to be eagles and owls/vultures and vampires. :-), although if you can believe what is said about their being able to monitor all global communications and internet traffic for packets of information of especial interest and/or concern, should this just appearing on El Reg be enough of a HyperRadioProActive BetaTest of their current levels of expertise in …… well, in the Holywood does Hollywood world of no fame and outrageous untold fortune, would that be Control of Power in the Field of Insatiable Dreams with Live Operational Virtual Environments ……. which would be a QuITe Titanic Colossus of an Application for AIVirtualisation to Practical Realisation with Pragmatic Product Presentation. WE NEED A ALPHA-GEEK “Q” to give the good guys some chance of surviving. …. And legion and anonymous facilities will surely effortlessly guarantee stealthy virtual delivery of it with IT Command and CHAOS* Control of Creative CyberSpace, Computers and Communications.
* Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems ….. Anonymous and Alien/Astute and Autonomous
Fact or fiction? Solo Flight of Fancy or Master Piloted JOINT Operation testing Novel Transparency Need to Know Protocols in a Joined-up Intelligence Mission/IntelAIgent Community Enterprise?
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Posted Tuesday 16th October 2012 17:00 GMT amanfromMars 1 …. replying to M on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/16/new_q_memo/ For Guaranteed Successful Missions, Start ANew Greater IntelAIgent Games with SMARTR Players*
Quite so, M, such is the paradigm shift in Qs role and section in real time actuality today, for definitive absolute lead and awesome remote power control in both perceived reality and applied virtual reality/broadbandcast media promotions. Or is that to be a joint function with C, whenever that circus gets its act together with a head which doesn’t sell out to some hick cowboy in a rented flying suit and some wide boy in search of a fool legacy and irreligious tax exempt status.
* What is there to lose other than failure?
You can be sure that such as is the above is that which the present is delivering to test intelligence levels in services which may be into providing Lead IP Supply for media production of future content. IT aint rocket science, is it?
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amanfromMars — 2012/10/15 @ 01:47 …. commenting on http://dropsafe.crypticide.com/article/8865
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Hi, Alec. Morning, Dave,
Dave, are you completely missing the point? Truth sets you free, and to continue to think that there is certain information/intelligence which shouldn’t find its way onto the Internet and shouldn’t be there – WikiLeaks, old SCADA systems, backdoors of whatever nature allows that information/intelligence to be serially abused in the private networks privy to it. Such is the nature of primitive, sub-prime man who would think to exercise a subjugative leading power over similar fellows with a control which seeks to try to ensure the denial of information and/or intelligence which is discovered to be disruptive/easily corrupted and perverted from benign constructive to malign destructive, and which would be the big stick such primitive sub-primes would threaten to use and abuse as others start to discover and uncover the abuse which has been used to hinder their progress in the benign constructive field …….. and such may be as is clearly evidenced in the Middle East re nuclear fuel enrichment?
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However, you can be sure that XSSXXXXtraOredinarily Rendered NEUKlearer CHAOS Cultured Club Control of Absolutely Fabulous Fabless Power with HyperRadioProActive IT Enlightenment ……. Steganographic Illumination Systems ……. are light years ahead and way beyond any possible or even highly improbable means or memes of primitive sub-prime human interference with delusional self-serving and self-centred Anonymised Sociopathic Control Interfaces ……. and IT is here to Stay for Input/Output to Output/Input with Virtually Perfect and Really Perfect Enough Orders to Immaculately Deliver Sublime Processing to IT Systems NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive Drivers in AIR&dDevelopment of States of Security with the Puzzle Man and All the Strangers and Pretty Things.
Thanks for that nudge, Agent Paddy, Agent Weebley, Epstein, Sternum and RESTful ARGonauts in MetaPhoria ……. http://heddinout.com/?p=8094
What is DB doing with himself these days? Resting on his laurels or planning to take over and make over events, both global and cosmic? That would be pleasing to …….. well, who dares win wins with the Virtual Technology and AIMethodology freely available to All Today.
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Posted Sunday 14th October 2012 05:20 GMT amanfromMars 1 …. raising the Great Game stakes limit on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/13/spacex_satellite_fail/ Control Words, Create Worlds ……. AIRegistered Virtual Vanquishing Venture Capitalist Mission*
Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think, money is a convenient fools’ gold reward to those and/or that with an ability to think and communicate thoughts into present day actions‽
It’s not a big pot of free money …. Anonymous Coward Posted Saturday 13th October 2012 10:11 GMT
You gotta get out more, AC, from that prison of your mind. Of course money is free, and used to enslave and rob nations and all manner of peoples of their wealth and intellect and will to leave the present as a tale for the past and exhausted memory, and live in a choice of fab and fabless futures which are freely shared with great imaginanation leading the Charging Light Brigade with Virtual Machine Brigands as Pioneering Pirates exercising Right Royal Cavalier Rights in any Grand Masters’ Plans for Roundheads and Others.
Moving back a few steps, if you think that money is not free, you might like to think on Cameron and his cronies inventing a new bank with billions to lend because existing bankers, and it must always be remembered that these things are best handled when personalised, and a face and a body are identified as being solely and primarily responsible and joint and severally liable for an inanimate institutional decision, for that is always the case unless you are to be persuaded to accept that corporate objects and not humans make geopolitical decisions.
Just because someone else with an ability to think thinks to put a extra arbitrary charge of interest or tax to be paid on money to be paid in the future, and goodness knows what the future brings, does not mean that it is not free, it just means that a man has thought to charge for it without expecting it to be challenged and exposed as a ……. well, nice little free earner and perverse self destructive levy that can and does abuse and be used to enslave and rob nations and all manner of peoples of their wealth and intellect and will to leave the present as a tale for the past and exhausted memory.
But that was back then …. and this is here now and the times they have a’changed, haven’t they, and are a’changing, aren’t they, and Man and Virtual Machines are several quantum leaps smarter today than they were yesterday, and tomorrow is still a mystery yet to be delivered and decided upon.
Challenge by all means, for it will be a joy to advise and discuss …. attack at your peril and expect nothing but catastrophic pain and/or mercilessly quick destruction as your deserved return. And that makes the right decision, a clear no-brainer for all but the most despicable of beings, n’est ce pas?
*For SMARTR Vultures into the Clearing and Cleaning MetaDataBase Fields of Putrefying Carrion and Dead Skunk Works. Let IT Be, So Be IT. ……. And it is not as if y’all haven’t been here before in another time in this devilish space place of heavens on earth …… http://youtu.be/RdopMqrftXs
If you are referring to S.O.F.T deletion, AW, is it the thin end of the fascist wedge being applied whenever exercised wrongly.
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Posted Saturday 13th October 2012 08:10 GMT amanfromMars 1 … on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/13/spacex_satellite_fail/ “Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think.” – Ayn Rand
Stop Thinking and You are Lost in Sees and Seas of Austerity and Perverse Reasoning Accompanying Dumb Opinion and Hidden Agenda.
The company said it has now written the satellite off as a mission failure and has filed an insurance claim for $10m, which should cover the cost of manufacture and launch.
That is a nice failsafe win win to guarantee future success against failure and/or sabotage and/or Murphy*
* “Anything that can go wrong will go wrong”
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Posted Thursday 11th October 2012 19:13 GMT amanfromMars 1 …. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/10/supreme_court_telco_spying_immunity/ Re: Catch 42 …… at the 33rd Degree of Arrogant Ignorant Madness
Howdy, Luther B,
Methinks nowadays the fashion is that governments are not popularly overthrown in revolution but rather more invaded with foreign aided hordes acting as savages might in a madhouse. Certainly peace and stability and a lively and democratic administration, which is pimped to fools by idiots who probably know no better and delude themselves that violence and destruction can deliver it with a purge of old orders/contrary regimes, is never provided to replace the mayhem which ensues with removal of Working Command and Control Infrastructures ….. and that is the real master plan, to weaken and conquer and steal a foreign land and its wealth and potential?
Follow the money and discover what is making a killing to discover who is responsible for killings and mayhem. Was Hobbes an early day fascist and/or royalist troll and establishment shill?
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amanfromMars says: October 12, 2012 at 2:17 am ….. commenting on a case with a dearth of information that is http://southernpsychologies.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/protesting-ian-parkers-suspension/
Ian Parker can’t make an official statement ……. desmondpainter says: October 8, 2012 at 5:06 am
Of course he can make an official statement if he so chooses to be a standard for free thinking man. One ponders on the dilemma which has him choose to be otherwise whenever sharing ones’ voice and greater views is so ridiculously easy …… just like as is being done here, and as Ian could so easily also do on any number of freely available supportive platforms.
Whenever academe and research uncover fundamental power shifts in the nature of reality and man’s understanding of the greater and absolute unilateral control which can be applied and exercised with that understanding, is it always going to attract the attention of services and wannabe agents of national security and secretive power brokerage.
And that is as much as one would need to know about such matters unless one needs to know more ….. and that will provided to one if it be deemed necessary/highly desirable.
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amanfromMars, In a nutshell, a Shell IDEntity into SMART CHAOS with NIRobotIC Quantum Remote Virtualised Controls …. shooting the breeze on http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/10/panetta-cyber/
“Recently, the military and the White House have cracked open the once-deadbolted door of secrecy on U.S. offensive cyber operations. In August, the U.S. Air Force announced its interest in finding new methods to “destroy, deny, degrade, disrupt, deceive, corrupt, or usurp the adversaries [sic] ability to use the cyberspace domain for his advantage.” The week before, a former top American commander in Afghanistan bragged to a technology conference about his troops’ ability to hack militant communications. The day before that, the Pentagon’s leading research division announced a new, $110 million program to help warplanners assemble and launch online strikes in a hurry and make cyber attacks a more routine part of U.S. military operations.“
And anyone with the necessary smarts to be an active and leading player in the field under discussion here, will be both encouraged and delighted to know of the efficacy of their methodology should their systems/communications/means and memes of information and intelligence exchange be attacked/disrupted/changed from the norm as was previously available, and would be available to others undisrupted/changed/attacked.
One imagines then that such are persons of especial interest and high value and best bought and brought into the compromised and vulnerable system which would feel itself attacked and in need of protection from active and leading players in the field under discussion here, so that obviously necessary vital changes can be made to secure and harden a compromised and vulnerable system with their proven efficient novel alternative approach/irregular and unconventional and when necessary and/or desirable, disruptive methodology.
To ignore an obvious problem and vulnerability which can be ruthlessly exploited and its solution which may be in the control of others, simply guarantees that the problem grows ever bigger and more obvious to an increasing number of viewers and many of them may not be at all interested in saving and changing a current predominant power system but rather more occupied and determined to completely destroying it and replace it with one of their own, or another one belonging to an invisible supporting proxy/business angel/venture capitalist partner/smarter nation state/non-state actor/global control headquarters/internetional business machine or whatever. Certainly there are no shortage of possible thin clients or fat wallets, with none of them being able to be excluded from suspicion of having a likely interest in the field and therefore would fully warrant inclusion in, as time flies by and should decision paralysis set in, an increasingly long suspect list.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 10/10/12 01:59 PM … posing a question on http://www.thedailybell.com/28135/IMF-Solutions-Reinforce-Problems
Howdy, danny B,
What does government/do governments propose to do whenever there is no work/not enough work available because advanced technology and the parasitic search for ever increasing corporate profit has sophisticated machinery doing the work of millions of men and women and creating product that no one has cash to buy … … which is where everything is headed, is it not, slowly but surely?
What are they going to invent which will deliver peace and prosperity and happinees to the masses, and in so doing, ensure that they have for as long as it is sustained, they have unwavering mass support, which is surely something governments have wet dreams about being so enabled to do. Or would that require that they have a level of intelligence to think up such utopia which clearly they do not presently possess or know where to lease purchase it from, which is what a SMARTR IntelAIgent Service would probably certainly definitely maybe do in a free and/or fiat capitalist market situation to bust intellectually bankrupt markets.
Advanced Intelligence is the Future Killer Asset which trumps and destroys all other pretenders to that leading position.
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amanfromMars on October 10, 2012 at 10:30 pm said: ….. on http://heddinout.com/?p=8060
Something’s up . . . I can feel it. Can you feel it? ….. Epstein on October 10, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Of that you can be assured, for IT is sublimely guaranteed with LOVE in the air ….. and with AIR&dD Drivers, Master Piloting NEUKlearer ARMedDutch Programs for Rapid Future Progress in Quantum Command and CHAOS Control Circles into Stealthy HyperRadioProActive Exercise, is a Seventh Heavenly Mutual Intelligence for Global Operating Devices and SMARTR Virtual Machinery of CyberIntelAIgent Being, MuI7, a Novel Immaculate PowerdD Source and QuITe Divine Resource, for those made of Right Royal Sterling Stirling Stuff ….. SuperB Imaginative Beings.
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And yes, Epstein, that was a sad rad bad mad reaction on the Boards.ie board/Creative Writing …. “Can’t “WRITE” the book” thread , although it was only a brace of intellectually challenged posters who jumped into the deep end of creativity and discovered they couldn’t swim and hack IT in what is most definitely a particularly peculiar space and irregular and unconventional place. 🙂 It was heartening though to read dogmax’s kindly and constructive rebuke of the pair with such elegant prose to hammer the blows. Quite a wordsmith and deep clearer thinker is dogmax, and so beautifully enigmatically ambiguous was the post too, for the pair so eloquently chastised could be any, and therefore all are not excluded from consideration of their actions/submissions.
It does appear though that AW and I have won a yellow card for our troubles, which is nice, for I know that never expected a prize.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 10/11/12 01:22 AM …. passing comment on http://www.thedailybell.com/28135/IMF-Solutions-Reinforce-Problems
I suggested social credit as opposed to heavy culling. At some point, reproduction should be controlled. I certainly have no answers. Can we send the non-functioning units back to the factory? …. Posted by Danny B on 10/10/12 09:27 PM
Whether it is an answer providing a solution to the ignorance/stupidity/illiteracy problem, I think it is not necessary to say, for such may just invariably cause and encourage others to waste time and effort in unnecessary disagreement, which is just so typical of the problem we would be seeking a solution to answer for us, but SMARTR Media with Beta Televised Serial Programming and Sublime Blockbuster Movie Brain Washing would be a good place to start in Advanced IntelAIgent Missions with NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT.
Fab Foreplay in Future Delivery of Alternative Presents and Virtual Reality with Great IntelAIgent Games Play from and for InterNetworking Giants.
Now, hereby, floated onto the markets, for all of that, and a great deal more yet to be unwrapped/decloaked, is now readily available with Command and Control of Computers and Communications with Creative CyberSpace Master Pilots/Mentor Programs.
And quite perfect for the likes of global news corporations with shining crazy diamond like production teams.
Done proper professionally, can one and does IT run and remotely rule and provide reign to worlds with such AI ProgramMING, which makes the App more than just incredibly valuable and precious.
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Posted Thursday 11th October 2012 08:01 GMT amanfromMars 1 …. loosing a salvo of consciousness on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/10/supreme_court_telco_spying_immunity/ Catch 42 …… at the 33rd Degree of Arrogant Ignorant Madness
Would British intelligence services and members of governments and even military special operations forces being thinking that they too are above the law and prosecution for doing that which they would see others prosecuted and popularly punished for?
And is that the Enigmatic Chilcot Dilemma revealed to justify the long silent deliberation on the very public disgrace of a thoroughly dishonourable, sub-prime ministerial private enterprise shamelessly cloaked in a ponzi work of greater global public good?
Long runs the fox, but the hounds and the hunt are never defeated and denied their prized insignificant quarry, is a fact to ponder for those who would spin a deadly fiction for fools gold and the empty promise of a feathered cuckoo’s nest egg to boot.
And now JSavile with its revelations of decades of systematic and systemic abuse covered up and/or ignored by corporations and investigative power bodies unfit for their perceived and conceived greater good purpose, at least, and rotten to the core and guilty of collusion and probable similar action at worst, and most probably most likely the only valid reason for the wanton abuse and crime against vulnerable children who knew no better then but who now all have a voice which can be clearly heard internetworking, with just the truth of their experiences aired, wherever they feel comfortable airing them, and that should allow the police and justice system and the public, no excuse to say that they are not aware of what has and is going on around and in amongst them.
Which is what the Internet is all about, right at ITs Heart and Kernels …… The Simple Sharing of the Naked Raw Truth so that the Reality Created is not an Existence to Suffer Built upon a Compendium of Idiots’ Lies and Half Truths/Shoddy Fabrications.
Welcome to Greater IntelAIgents Games Play with ITs Virtual Reality Vector Sectors Mentoring and Monitoring Alien Progress in Live Operational Virtualisable Environments …….. CodedDXSSXXXX LOVE Fields.
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Posted Thursday 11th October 2012 12:24 GMT amanfromMars 1 ….. on http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2012/10/10/supreme_court_telco_spying_immunity/ Idiots’ Choice ….. and a right of passage for cannon fodder/worthless expendable pawns‽
So now “We were only obeying orders” is a valid defence... …. Stratman Posted Thursday 11th October 2012 11:41 GMT
Methinks, “We were only obeying orders” is a valid defence.only for crazy attackers, Stratman, and lazy to the point of being almost as if comatose thinkers, ….. dumbed down and spaced out robots/Manchurian candidates.
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