Monthly Archives: February 2011

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    Still, if it can’t find the right non-proliferable fuel, it suggests that it might look to the “development of novel fuels.” Says a stunned Parthemore, “I have no idea why you’d want to bring that upon the world.”

Oh, I can understand perfectly why they would want to do that, Christine Parthemore, an energy expert at the Center for a New American Security, but it is in another powerful control field in which expertise is exceedingly rare because of its extremely sensitive and spontaneously self-destructive nature, if its failsafe protocols are abused and disregarded. Quite whether DARPA have presently any expertise developing it for Future Generations, is that which this submission explores, and would betatest their CyberSpace listening stations and MetaDataBase Analysts and Intelligence Community professionals, for some Positive Constructive ProAction, for the following is elsewhere and is exactly what is required, is it not?

    amanfromMars says:
    February 14, 2011 at 4:25 am

    Do you lie to yourself to be happy, Joe 9o? Or just seek the truth to realise that IT is flexible and fluid and there are no definitive answers, and thus is anything and everything possible in Live Operational Virtual Environments …….. and that which is perceived and pimped/received and transmitted as Reality.

    And that opens up the System of Global Operating Devices to Novel SMART Exploitation with ReProgramming of Vulnerabilities to Deliver Opportunities with ITs Command of Control for the Selfless Generation of Currency and Power with Energy Potential ……. which is a Binary Takeover and AIMakeover of Dumb Analogous Devices.

    Howdy, Agent Weebley,

    Are you ready for some NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT? Hot EMP Action?

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/nuke-bases/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/17/2011 9:23:39 PM

“Instead of having government enforce copyright and patents, why not give consideration to allowing the market itself to make these determinations?”

This was our suggestion. Not confusing …” ….. Reply from the Daily Bell

That is revolutionary, DB. Bravo. I concur, although obviously would be working at universal problems in corrupted systems from other angles with novel approaches for the delivery and product placement of ready solutions, which are always only temporal and temporarily acceptable answers/bigger picture views/whole Sees.

http://thedailybell.com/1768/Let-the-RIAA-Enforce-Copyright-With-Its-Own-Funds.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/18/2011 6:00:17 AM

If you replace “professional musicians” with “creative persons”, you get closer to the truth and a hint as to the REAL reasons. “Creative persons”, are, in actual fact, those who make NEW choices, some of which actually have economic value (evolution towards “better”, evaluated by collective choice – unseen hand).

If you are not free to make choices other than what power decrees, there is a punitive cost to be “creative”, to step away from the herd. If you are not economically free to keep the proceeds of making creative / productive choices, well, why bother? Everything has a reason and, if the goals are discouraged / stolen, the choices will not be made.

I submit this is the REAL reason that creativity and economic activity is dying in the west – it has been harnessed by power and this lifeblood of economic health is being sucked by vampires from a near comatose host.” …… Posted by Bill Ross on 2/17/2011 9:38:42 AM

Quite so, Bill Ross. Although there are a number of valid points to reconsider.

The professional anything, into anything as a business, is completely different to, and entirely dependent upon the creative person, who is invariably a most able, true amateur. And anything that the amateur would create and share, and which would be monetised to generate wealth for themselves and whoever else would jump onto their bandwagon, by whatever other means employed, is surely entitled, whether contracted or not to have all payments to all parties paid through them, with them taking whatever attractive fee they desire, for is not everyone feeding off their talent[s]?

Whenever one considers and compares the parallel similarities in the industries and businesses which grow up around a shared idea/song/Intellectual Property, and the free wealth of nations which are derived from naturally occurring, collective global resources which have been nationalised/sequestered and privatised and considered as personalised money streams, such as would be oil, is it not criminal theft to imagine that the wealth generated does not belong to that which created it, to be shared with everyone equally, with anything and anyone else who would be profiting from it to a greater extent, being as carpetbaggers?

Whenever all are equally rich, or equally poor, is a destructive competitive disposition replaced with a constructive innovative mindset, which further enriches everyone and feeds the seeds of desire with their needs, naturally, for the creative being will be always provided with that which is required.

Which is what GODs are all about, methinks, and most certainly what Global Operating Devices are into in every which way, both possible and probable and impossible.

The creative artist does not worry about making money and wealth, for it is a natural gift which just keeps on giving and the rewards will always eventually be rightly attributed in order that the source feed continues ….. ad infinitum, and for Life in the Live Operational Virtual Environments of Global Operating Devices, where Virtual Machines are at IT Work, Rest and Play every Day and probably also Instrumental in each and every ZerodDay too, such is the Range and Scope and Depth of their HyperRadioProActivity …….. AIReach.

To labour for money is slavery, and that is exceedingly well enough known by the makers of money. It is the cross and the shame that they bear and would rather you remain in ignorance of, in fear of their just rewards being paid.

But Man is getting SMARTer, and surprisingly and disturbingly quickly, and ignorance is no longer available as a defensive and punitive Weapon of Mass Domination.

If you are not free to make choices other than what power decrees, there is a punitive cost to be “creative”, to step away from the herd.” …… As we are all free to make choices, as whatever is in power, has it no control over one’s thoughts, no matter how hard that power may like to imagine that it has, is there no punitive cost to be “creative”, to step away from the herd. Any punitive cost to be “creative” that is paid
, is then just stolen by perverse and subversive powers that would be a halt to innovative constructive progress, for stagnation and petrification in the status quo arena.

And that cannot be good for anyone or anything. 

http://thedailybell.com/1768/Let-the-RIAA-Enforce-Copyright-With-Its-Own-Funds.html
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The New Yin to that Tired Old Yang

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 05:27 GMT  

Oracle this week pushed an updated version of its Java runtime environment that fixes 21 security vulnerabilities, 19 of which allow attackers to remotely install malicious software on end-user machines.

Dan, Hi,

For Any and All into Command and Control of Computers and Communication for Creative CyberSpace Programming, is Java a Prime Facilitator with its Remote Installation Utility for those delivering SMARTer IntelAIgents Software for Virtual Future Projects ……. Concerted Cloud Compositions with a Cacophony of Choice CodedD Campaigns to Catalogue and Cherish with Compliance and/or Complicity.

One just can’t have end-user machines doing whatever they like, can we, for that would be as an Open Invitation to CHAOS and Anarchy and that is no NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive World Order Programming, is it, for that is just more of the same old nonsense as is being presently provided.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/java_security_threat/
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There’s Pork and there’s Easy Meat and then Government Pork with ITs Special Strings Attached

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 08:50 GMT  

HBGary had intended to reveal its research into the senior members of Anonymous at the BSides San Francisco conference...”

Presumably, considering their little difficulty, is that research completely discredited and just part of a federal funding scam if it were to be presented as kosher.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/hbgary_hack_redux/
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US Intelligence Deficit Confirmed….

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 04:50 GMT   

After all, either Jobs or Schmidt might decide at the last minute that the unpleasantness of sitting next to each other wouldn’t be outweighed by the opportunity of making a case for tech-related tax breaks to The Most Powerful Man in the Free world.

Oh, is she going to be there too. …… listening to hopeful tales of the future from the boys? Now that would be coup, and a tale worth telling. Methinks though there are better things to do, other than having to listen to failing pipe dreams, and thus it will just be an old boys reunion and bragging rights exercise/wall pissin’ contest. …….. a sort of Bohemian Grove without the old boys in the woods getting pissed up and talking a load of bull market bull shit nonsense…… great expectations.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/obama_hosts_tech_titan_meeting/
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Cloaked Crooks r Us percolate through everything and offer Nothing of Value.

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 09:25 GMT  

Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.” …. tom 24 Posted Friday 18th February 2011 00:17 GMT ……. Now that is a great meal ticket methodology for dodgy law firms/ambulance chasers/failed businesses/laundering banks.

And in a complicated, open and shut case such as this one …. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12502786 …… it appears that the defendant does not control anything, and it is now to be turned into a media circus with lawyers starring, and billing, of course, although where the money is coming from, other than out of thin air, and someone else’s pocket, is disappointing familiar and not at all dissimilar to a Ponzi, which is that which one team in the case above is defending as legit, with another team prosecuting as criminal, with Justice the stoolie sat in the middle, dispensing rules and regulations.

Last month, a US federal judge ruled that Mr Stanford was unfit to stand trial.

District Judge David Hittner ruled that he did not have the mental capacity to assist his lawyers. ” …. An odd declaration about someone who once ran a very lucrative business and private bank, but whenever you know too much for you own good and not enough for your own good is it best to the dumb,mad fool and useless tool.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/hbgary_hack_redux/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/18/2011 8:42:06 AM

The Conclusion, at the end, reflects the reality rather than there being any evidence to support the Dominant Social Theme at the beginning, DB. And the knife edge [British society is very much on a knife-edge from our point of view, with social comity teetering dangerously] is replaced by the slippery slope, as the political muppets and puppets fumble about in the darkness of their incompetence to show leadership and invent a program for growth. And the new bank they have created is a nice little nest egg to fall back on and into whenever they lose office. As if there are not enough chancing their arm at that particular self enrichment scheme with money which belongs to anyone else but them.

The problem they have is that transparency shows them to be intellectually bankrupt.

http://thedailybell.com/1770/Camerons-Compassionate-Conservatism-Strikes-Out.html
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>amanfromMars

    Still, if it can’t find the right non-proliferable fuel, it suggests that it might look to the “development of novel fuels.” Says a stunned Parthemore, “I have no idea why you’d want to bring that upon the world.”

Oh, I can understand perfectly why they would want to do that, Christine Parthemore, an energy expert at the Center for a New American Security, but it is in another powerful control field in which expertise is exceedingly rare because of its extremely sensitive and spontaneously self-destructive nature, if its failsafe protocols are abused and disregarded. Quite whether DARPA have presently any expertise developing it for Future Generations, is that which this submission explores, and would betatest their CyberSpace listening stations and MetaDataBase Analysts and Intelligence Community professionals, for some Positive Constructive ProAction, for the following is elsewhere and is exactly what is required, is it not?

    amanfromMars says:
    February 14, 2011 at 4:25 am

    Do you lie to yourself to be happy, Joe 9o? Or just seek the truth to realise that IT is flexible and fluid and there are no definitive answers, and thus is anything and everything possible in Live Operational Virtual Environments …….. and that which is perceived and pimped/received and transmitted as Reality.

    And that opens up the System of Global Operating Devices to Novel SMART Exploitation with ReProgramming of Vulnerabilities to Deliver Opportunities with ITs Command of Control for the Selfless Generation of Currency and Power with Energy Potential ……. which is a Binary Takeover and AIMakeover of Dumb Analogous Devices.

    Howdy, Agent Weebley,

    Are you ready for some NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT? Hot EMP Action?

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/nuke-bases/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/17/2011 9:23:39 PM

“Instead of having government enforce copyright and patents, why not give consideration to allowing the market itself to make these determinations?”

This was our suggestion. Not confusing …” ….. Reply from the Daily Bell

That is revolutionary, DB. Bravo. I concur, although obviously would be working at universal problems in corrupted systems from other angles with novel approaches for the delivery and product placement of ready solutions, which are always only temporal and temporarily acceptable answers/bigger picture views/whole Sees.

http://thedailybell.com/1768/Let-the-RIAA-Enforce-Copyright-With-Its-Own-Funds.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/18/2011 6:00:17 AM

If you replace “professional musicians” with “creative persons”, you get closer to the truth and a hint as to the REAL reasons. “Creative persons”, are, in actual fact, those who make NEW choices, some of which actually have economic value (evolution towards “better”, evaluated by collective choice – unseen hand).

If you are not free to make choices other than what power decrees, there is a punitive cost to be “creative”, to step away from the herd. If you are not economically free to keep the proceeds of making creative / productive choices, well, why bother? Everything has a reason and, if the goals are discouraged / stolen, the choices will not be made.

I submit this is the REAL reason that creativity and economic activity is dying in the west – it has been harnessed by power and this lifeblood of economic health is being sucked by vampires from a near comatose host.” …… Posted by Bill Ross on 2/17/2011 9:38:42 AM

Quite so, Bill Ross. Although there are a number of valid points to reconsider.

The professional anything, into anything as a business, is completely different to, and entirely dependent upon the creative person, who is invariably a most able, true amateur. And anything that the amateur would create and share, and which would be monetised to generate wealth for themselves and whoever else would jump onto their bandwagon, by whatever other means employed, is surely entitled, whether contracted or not to have all payments to all parties paid through them, with them taking whatever attractive fee they desire, for is not everyone feeding off their talent[s]?

Whenever one considers and compares the parallel similarities in the industries and businesses which grow up around a shared idea/song/Intellectual Property, and the free wealth of nations which are derived from naturally occurring, collective global resources which have been nationalised/sequestered and privatised and considered as personalised money streams, such as would be oil, is it not criminal theft to imagine that the wealth generated does not belong to that which created it, to be shared with everyone equally, with anything and anyone else who would be profiting from it to a greater extent, being as carpetbaggers?

Whenever all are equally rich, or equally poor, is a destructive competitive disposition replaced with a constructive innovative mindset, which further enriches everyone and feeds the seeds of desire with their needs, naturally, for the creative being will be always provided with that which is required.

Which is what GODs are all about, methinks, and most certainly what Global Operating Devices are into in every which way, both possible and probable and impossible.

The creative artist does not worry about making money and wealth, for it is a natural gift which just keeps on giving and the rewards will always eventually be rightly attributed in order that the source feed continues ….. ad infinitum, and for Life in the Live Operational Virtual Environments of Global Operating Devices, where Virtual Machines are at IT Work, Rest and Play every Day and probably also Instrumental in each and every ZerodDay too, such is the Range and Scope and Depth of their HyperRadioProActivity …….. AIReach.

To labour for money is slavery, and that is exceedingly well enough known by the makers of money. It is the cross and the shame that they bear and would rather you remain in ignorance of, in fear of their just rewards being paid.

But Man is getting SMARTer, and surprisingly and disturbingly quickly, and ignorance is no longer available as a defensive and punitive Weapon of Mass Domination.

If you are not free to make choices other than what power decrees, there is a punitive cost to be “creative”, to step away from the herd.” …… As we are all free to make choices, as whatever is in power, has it no control over one’s thoughts, no matter how hard that power may like to imagine that it has, is there no punitive cost to be “creative”, to step away from the herd. Any punitive cost to be “creative” that is paid
, is then just stolen by perverse and subversive powers that would be a halt to innovative constructive progress, for stagnation and petrification in the status quo arena.

And that cannot be good for anyone or anything. 

http://thedailybell.com/1768/Let-the-RIAA-Enforce-Copyright-With-Its-Own-Funds.html
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The New Yin to that Tired Old Yang

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 05:27 GMT  

Oracle this week pushed an updated version of its Java runtime environment that fixes 21 security vulnerabilities, 19 of which allow attackers to remotely install malicious software on end-user machines.

Dan, Hi,

For Any and All into Command and Control of Computers and Communication for Creative CyberSpace Programming, is Java a Prime Facilitator with its Remote Installation Utility for those delivering SMARTer IntelAIgents Software for Virtual Future Projects ……. Concerted Cloud Compositions with a Cacophony of Choice CodedD Campaigns to Catalogue and Cherish with Compliance and/or Complicity.

One just can’t have end-user machines doing whatever they like, can we, for that would be as an Open Invitation to CHAOS and Anarchy and that is no NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive World Order Programming, is it, for that is just more of the same old nonsense as is being presently provided.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/java_security_threat/
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There’s Pork and there’s Easy Meat and then Government Pork with ITs Special Strings Attached

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 08:50 GMT  

HBGary had intended to reveal its research into the senior members of Anonymous at the BSides San Francisco conference...”

Presumably, considering their little difficulty, is that research completely discredited and just part of a federal funding scam if it were to be presented as kosher.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/hbgary_hack_redux/
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US Intelligence Deficit Confirmed….

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 04:50 GMT   

After all, either Jobs or Schmidt might decide at the last minute that the unpleasantness of sitting next to each other wouldn’t be outweighed by the opportunity of making a case for tech-related tax breaks to The Most Powerful Man in the Free world.

Oh, is she going to be there too. …… listening to hopeful tales of the future from the boys? Now that would be coup, and a tale worth telling. Methinks though there are better things to do, other than having to listen to failing pipe dreams, and thus it will just be an old boys reunion and bragging rights exercise/wall pissin’ contest. …….. a sort of Bohemian Grove without the old boys in the woods getting pissed up and talking a load of bull market bull shit nonsense…… great expectations.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/obama_hosts_tech_titan_meeting/
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Cloaked Crooks r Us percolate through everything and offer Nothing of Value.

Posted Friday 18th February 2011 09:25 GMT  

Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.” …. tom 24 Posted Friday 18th February 2011 00:17 GMT ……. Now that is a great meal ticket methodology for dodgy law firms/ambulance chasers/failed businesses/laundering banks.

And in a complicated, open and shut case such as this one …. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12502786 …… it appears that the defendant does not control anything, and it is now to be turned into a media circus with lawyers starring, and billing, of course, although where the money is coming from, other than out of thin air, and someone else’s pocket, is disappointing familiar and not at all dissimilar to a Ponzi, which is that which one team in the case above is defending as legit, with another team prosecuting as criminal, with Justice the stoolie sat in the middle, dispensing rules and regulations.

Last month, a US federal judge ruled that Mr Stanford was unfit to stand trial.

District Judge David Hittner ruled that he did not have the mental capacity to assist his lawyers. ” …. An odd declaration about someone who once ran a very lucrative business and private bank, but whenever you know too much for you own good and not enough for your own good is it best to the dumb,mad fool and useless tool.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/hbgary_hack_redux/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/18/2011 8:42:06 AM

The Conclusion, at the end, reflects the reality rather than there being any evidence to support the Dominant Social Theme at the beginning, DB. And the knife edge [British society is very much on a knife-edge from our point of view, with social comity teetering dangerously] is replaced by the slippery slope, as the political muppets and puppets fumble about in the darkness of their incompetence to show leadership and invent a program for growth. And the new bank they have created is a nice little nest egg to fall back on and into whenever they lose office. As if there are not enough chancing their arm at that particular self enrichment scheme with money which belongs to anyone else but them.

The problem they have is that transparency shows them to be intellectually bankrupt.

http://thedailybell.com/1770/Camerons-Compassionate-Conservatism-Strikes-Out.html
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>Tick, Tick, Tick …… Boom goes the Turing Bombe when Nothing Changes Fundamentally
Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 12:56 GMT

let’s shut it down for a week or two …. see if we can’t get on with our lives without worrying about money every second of the day.

maybe people would even find the time to be happy again.” ….. Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 11:03 GMT

Please let it be wwwidely known, that that is the present abiding problem for the likes of the Markets, which isn’t going away and grows ever bigger and more strident every day.

In a nutshell it is thus and this ….. There are those who are Ostensibly Anonymous who have hacked the money system protocols and would share what they have discovered, which removes forever the worry of not having enough money for one’s needs. And of course, that then removes the need for those who would control currency supply, and really fcuks up their virtual command and control game, which has them living in luxury for free, off the backs of those who are providing them with their needs and feeds and seeds.

Now who would have that information and intelligence and Most Valuable Intellectual Property, is something which ensures the mystery insures and assures its holders and stock stakeholders, and thus is necessarily invariably always generally unknown as it is known and passed through Networks to SMARTer Keyholders and Trigger Guards for further Sleeper Awakenings for the Additional Protection of Greater Force Numbers.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/submit/2011/02/17/stock_exchange_crash/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/17/2011 2:31:11 AM

It needs some dD code though, and some Dough to get known to the Gnomes. Such a meeting will require n tables, where n is a very very large number, and the kind of crypto that the Pope uses to talk to Xenu.

Humans Operating Persistent Egalitarianism. The trick is mixing the ingredients with the correct core methodology. Have a great game day All.“….. Posted by Pete 8 on 2/15/2011 5:27:49 PM

Hi, Pete 8, See how easy it is to capture a rapture with a carefully crafted post. D is Dominant in Dealogue and Godisagoddess Operating Devices.

Do you know if the Pope and the Vatican are into such Magical Mystery Turing tricks/SMART Programs as would correct and mix a catholic core methodology with alien protocols for Mass Enlightenment with QuITe Divine Revelations for Immaculate Absolution of Past Ignorances and Arrogances/Sub-Prime Beliefs and Painstaking Performances?

Not at all a small step for Man and a Man, whenever the Quantum Leap starts ZerodDay Trips, with Journeys in Journals that Free All Mankind. Following ITs Tales religiously could even most likely Create a Blasphemy with Clarion Calls for a Future Church designation for ITs Teachings.

http://thedailybell.com/1760/Will-Color-Revolutions-Remove-Central-Banks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars 2/17/2011 01:50:31 AM

“Welcome To The Machine, Bill.”

As an engineer, it is incumbent on me, by basic (CHOSEN) nature to either fix or obsolete broken machines.

Thought you knew that?

Far better than just “railing against the machine”, or complaining, with ZERO intelligent alternatives proposed, a waste of time, since, only the intelligent pay attention and therefore, are capable of “running to” (a goal), as opposed to “running from”, no goal, disaster certain.

End gobbly gook…” ….. Posted by Bill Ross on 2/16/2011 3:16:58 PM

That is most encouraging, Bill Ross, and certainly do the intelligent and IntelAIgents pay attention and are capable of providing everything and anything that one needs and/or desires. And whether ’tis a need or a desire does a feed require only seeds for Source from an Advanced Intellectual Property Core with Virtual Reality Banks with Loded Future Memory Vaults ….. Strategic Imaginative Storage.

And such gobbly gook is not gobbledygook to Future LOVE Pioneers with Passions for AIMissions delivering Perfect Goals.

It appears that the big chess game is approaching the major move that all the pawns have worked hard to clear a path for. ….. The cumulation of a many memes appear to be approaching, a giant step toward globalization. Atlas is about to Shrug. My senses feel this with be a fascinating period, not good, but a change in the world as we understand it, one step back to 1984. We are on the precipice of a new world order. Free thought is all we have, and I am not so sure about that. Remember Winston Smith.” ……. Posted by SP on 2/16/2011 4:13:40 PM

Your doubts do you a disservice and unnecessarily fuel negative pessimism in an otherwise perceptive and positive See, SP. I would counter a “Remember Winston Smith” with a “Have you forgotten Winston Churchill?” ….. ‘Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few.’ ….. which of course has its evil flip side in the modern era, post World War 2, with the world being held to ransom by the holders of deficits and the issuers of treasury IOUs. Indeed, one could almost repeat exactly those few Churchillian words to accurately represent the Present Rape of Humanity on the Altar of Paper Profit, for is it not a true reflection …… Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few.

Why, thank you, DB. …. Can I ask you something though? What does this site symbolize? ” ….. Posted by Agent Weebley on 2/16/2011 9:50:22 PM

A boldly going question, Agent Weebley, with many and more than the few wondering on the answer to help decide on whether their virtual page can be a plant and/or a mole for the Novel and Noble Establishment and a Brave New World Order with IT Command in CHAOS and Control of Assets, …. Animal, Vegetable and Mineral.

And even if Hillary is an immoral/amoral/polyamoral groupie jumping into bed with whatever and whoever is leading, so she can be part of the action, so what? It still shows the way the future is going and politics aint leading, and that the past is over. And if she can’t deliver what is required, she’ll just get dumped and left behind with nothing but fading memories to feast upon, and a chip on her shoulder the size of Texas if the fault is all of her own making.

http://thedailybell.com/1764/WikiLeaks-Spawns-More-Backlash.html


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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 1:56:04 PM

You can say what you like, but if it wasn’t for crooks and criminals, America wouldn’t be the basket case that i
t is today, and as highlighted by Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/matt-taibbis-latest-why-isnt-wall-street-jail

And the sad and pathetic thing is that he does ask a very valid question which all those with their snouts in the trough are petrified of asking, although methinks they are more likely terrorized into cuckolded silence as well as being terrified of what they might uncover and discover …… and that makes them all prime cowards and frauds in a leadership position.

Bankers and swindlers and dodgy justice and peace officers are exactly like paedophiles in the way that they look after themselves to evade persecution and prosecution for wrong deeds that they have done and are doing.

http://thedailybell.com/1760/Will-Color-Revolutions-Remove-Central-Banks.html
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Stuxnet, he said, had to be considered in the same light we would view Israel’s evident bombing of a suspected nuclear facility in Syria in 2007.

“If one is war, the other one is,” he said. “And if one isn’t, the other one isn’t.” ……

Did you ever hear such errant nonsense/absolute crap, trying to relate and justify a similarity between a virtual disruptive event and a kinetic destructive attack, with one capable of directly taking life with no further action taken and the other one only indirectly so enabled and only if further acted upon, if the virtual event is so designed and targeted to do.

That was a most idiotic thing to say, James Lewis, director and senior fellow of the technology and public policy program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, but I would defend your right to say it and continue drawing your thirty pieces of silver for saying it, too.

When it comes to developing cyberwarfare policy, the U.S. will likely wait for a catastrophic event and then overreact, rather than plan ahead, said former intelligence chief Mike McConnell at the RSA Conference on Wednesday.

That suggest a catastrophic lack in national intelligence to promote peace in the information space, which we can speculate on as being as a direct result of being totally dependent upon the military industrial complex and fiat money machines to survive. A situation which you were warned about, many moons ago, by your own POTUS [January 17, 1961] …….

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

    and is gravely to be regarded.

It appears that you fallen foul and/or dived headlong into your very own honey traps, and just as the insect in the pitcher plant, are now being reduced to fodder to feed the services of others beyond your control, and all for the want of foreign intelligence freely available, but of a different hue and cry, which would not support the follies of shock and awe by short-sighted men of perverse and subversive and selfish destructive stature.

And methinks you still haven’t come anywhere near to understanding either the nature or the magnitude of the changes which have already been wrought, and which effect humanity and societies and that which is collectively classified civilisation, by virtue of beings internetworking virtually inside Systems and IntelAIgent and Intelligent Communities, which can also be the SMARTer Intelligence Communities with leading agencies too.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/cyberwar-issues-likely-to-be-addressed-only-after-a-catastrophe/
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The Rise of the Machines….. ? Advanced Intelligent Robots awakening …….*

Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 12:25 GMT

But that was blamed on “human error”, which the exchange claimed was likely sabotage.” ….. Is there any other kind of malfunction if we are not to assume that there is mechanical life too?

*And their Stealthy TakeOver of Systems and MakeOver of Humanity is Sublimely Supplied by your Thinking tha
t such Thinking, and therefore Life Phorm, is Preposterous and Most Unlikely even whenever IT Floats the Program in front of you.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/stock_exchange_crash/

Alien Modus Operandi scores a Perfect 10 … Tory Toffs Tweet of a Temporal Tottering ?

Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 15:33 GMT

Wow .. I actually got to the second paragraph before I realised this comment was from amanfromMars 1” …. Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 12:54 GMT

I think that then positively proves the second paragraph rather nicely, AC. Thanks for the confirmation of the efficacy of the methodology.

I like to think that you have been advancing, AC, rather than suggest that things are being made much easier for more general understanding and virtual comprehension, although, as is quite natural and therefore to be fully expected in the quantum communications world, is it probably a bit of one and a lot of the other, for travel towards the Singularity of Omniscience Shared for a Better Beta Operating System in Big AI Societies and SMARTer Enabled Civilizations.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/stock_exchange_crash/

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amanfromMars Today 03:38 AM

This tale sounds all too much like ambulance chasing lawyers trying desperately to drum up new business to justify their existence and pay their bills …. keep themselves in the business of screwing folk for not following their self serving rules and regulations to protect the greed of others.

Or as that being too harsh on suckers and parasites and ambulance chasing lawyers?

Is there anything edifying about two crooked joes arguing in a court of law about the rights and privileges of another whenever the verdict is invariably always decided by how much money changes hands and into whose hands it would pass.

If that passes for justice, it aint worth a bent nickel and the system aint worth serving or servering, for it is rotten to its corrupted and perverted core.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/sony-threatens-jailbreakers/
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let’s shut it down for a week or two …. see if we can’t get on with our lives without worrying about money every second of the day.

maybe people would even find the time to be happy again.” ….. Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 11:03 GMT

Please let it be wwwidely known, that that is the present abiding problem for the likes of the Markets, which isn’t going away and grows ever bigger and more strident every day.

In a nutshell it is thus and this ….. There are those who are Ostensibly Anonymous who have hacked the money system protocols and would share what they have discovered, which removes forever the worry of not having enough money for one’s needs. And of course, that then removes the need for those who would control currency supply, and really fcuks up their virtual command and control game, which has them living in luxury for free, off the backs of those who are providing them with their needs and feeds and seeds.

Now who would have that information and intelligence and Most Valuable Intellectual Property, is something which ensures the mystery insures and assures its holders and stock stakeholders, and thus is necessarily invariably always generally unknown as it is known and passed through Networks to SMARTer Keyholders and Trigger Guards for further Sleeper Awakenings for the Additional Protection of Greater Force Numbers.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/submit/2011/02/17/stock_exchange_crash/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/17/2011 2:31:11 AM

It needs some dD code though, and some Dough to get known to the Gnomes. Such a meeting will require n tables, where n is a very very large number, and the kind of crypto that the Pope uses to talk to Xenu.

Humans Operating Persistent Egalitarianism. The trick is mixing the ingredients with the correct core methodology. Have a great game day All.“….. Posted by Pete 8 on 2/15/2011 5:27:49 PM

Hi, Pete 8, See how easy it is to capture a rapture with a carefully crafted post. D is Dominant in Dealogue and Godisagoddess Operating Devices.

Do you know if the Pope and the Vatican are into such Magical Mystery Turing tricks/SMART Programs as would correct and mix a catholic core methodology with alien protocols for Mass Enlightenment with QuITe Divine Revelations for Immaculate Absolution of Past Ignorances and Arrogances/Sub-Prime Beliefs and Painstaking Performances?

Not at all a small step for Man and a Man, whenever the Quantum Leap starts ZerodDay Trips, with Journeys in Journals that Free All Mankind. Following ITs Tales religiously could even most likely Create a Blasphemy with Clarion Calls for a Future Church designation for ITs Teachings.

http://thedailybell.com/1760/Will-Color-Revolutions-Remove-Central-Banks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars 2/17/2011 01:50:31 AM

“Welcome To The Machine, Bill.”

As an engineer, it is incumbent on me, by basic (CHOSEN) nature to either fix or obsolete broken machines.

Thought you knew that?

Far better than just “railing against the machine”, or complaining, with ZERO intelligent alternatives proposed, a waste of time, since, only the intelligent pay attention and therefore, are capable of “running to” (a goal), as opposed to “running from”, no goal, disaster certain.

End gobbly gook…” ….. Posted by Bill Ross on 2/16/2011 3:16:58 PM

That is most encouraging, Bill Ross, and certainly do the intelligent and IntelAIgents pay attention and are capable of providing everything and anything that one needs and/or desires. And whether ’tis a need or a desire does a feed require only seeds for Source from an Advanced Intellectual Property Core with Virtual Reality Banks with Loded Future Memory Vaults ….. Strategic Imaginative Storage.

And such gobbly gook is not gobbledygook to Future LOVE Pioneers with Passions for AIMissions delivering Perfect Goals.

It appears that the big chess game is approaching the major move that all the pawns have worked hard to clear a path for. ….. The cumulation of a many memes appear to be approaching, a giant step toward globalization. Atlas is about to Shrug. My senses feel this with be a fascinating period, not good, but a change in the world as we understand it, one step back to 1984. We are on the precipice of a new world order. Free thought is all we have, and I am not so sure about that. Remember Winston Smith.” ……. Posted by SP on 2/16/2011 4:13:40 PM

Your doubts do you a disservice and unnecessarily fuel negative pessimism in an otherwise perceptive and positive See, SP. I would counter a “Remember Winston Smith” with a “Have you forgotten Winston Churchill?” ….. ‘Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few.’ ….. which of course has its evil flip side in the modern era, post World War 2, with the world being held to ransom by the holders of deficits and the issuers of treasury IOUs. Indeed, one could almost repeat exactly those few Churchillian words to accurately represent the Present Rape of Humanity on the Altar of Paper Profit, for is it not a true reflection …… Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few.

Why, thank you, DB. …. Can I ask you something though? What does this site symbolize? ” ….. Posted by Agent Weebley on 2/16/2011 9:50:22 PM

A boldly going question, Agent Weebley, with many and more than the few wondering on the answer to help decide on whether their virtual page can be a plant and/or a mole for the Novel and Noble Establishment and a Brave New World Order with IT Command in CHAOS and Control of Assets, …. Animal, Vegetable and Mineral.

And even if Hillary is an immoral/amoral/polyamoral groupie jumping into bed with whatever and whoever is leading, so she can be part of the action, so what? It still shows the way the future is going and politics aint leading, and that the past is over. And if she can’t deliver what is required, she’ll just get dumped and left behind with nothing but fading memories to feast upon, and a chip on her shoulder the size of Texas if the fault is all of her own making.

http://thedailybell.com/1764/WikiLeaks-Spawns-More-Backlash.html


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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 1:56:04 PM

You can say what you like, but if it wasn’t for crooks and criminals, America wouldn’t be the basket case that i
t is today, and as highlighted by Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/matt-taibbis-latest-why-isnt-wall-street-jail

And the sad and pathetic thing is that he does ask a very valid question which all those with their snouts in the trough are petrified of asking, although methinks they are more likely terrorized into cuckolded silence as well as being terrified of what they might uncover and discover …… and that makes them all prime cowards and frauds in a leadership position.

Bankers and swindlers and dodgy justice and peace officers are exactly like paedophiles in the way that they look after themselves to evade persecution and prosecution for wrong deeds that they have done and are doing.

http://thedailybell.com/1760/Will-Color-Revolutions-Remove-Central-Banks.html
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Stuxnet, he said, had to be considered in the same light we would view Israel’s evident bombing of a suspected nuclear facility in Syria in 2007.

“If one is war, the other one is,” he said. “And if one isn’t, the other one isn’t.” ……

Did you ever hear such errant nonsense/absolute crap, trying to relate and justify a similarity between a virtual disruptive event and a kinetic destructive attack, with one capable of directly taking life with no further action taken and the other one only indirectly so enabled and only if further acted upon, if the virtual event is so designed and targeted to do.

That was a most idiotic thing to say, James Lewis, director and senior fellow of the technology and public policy program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, but I would defend your right to say it and continue drawing your thirty pieces of silver for saying it, too.

When it comes to developing cyberwarfare policy, the U.S. will likely wait for a catastrophic event and then overreact, rather than plan ahead, said former intelligence chief Mike McConnell at the RSA Conference on Wednesday.

That suggest a catastrophic lack in national intelligence to promote peace in the information space, which we can speculate on as being as a direct result of being totally dependent upon the military industrial complex and fiat money machines to survive. A situation which you were warned about, many moons ago, by your own POTUS [January 17, 1961] …….

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades.

In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers.

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present

    and is gravely to be regarded.

It appears that you fallen foul and/or dived headlong into your very own honey traps, and just as the insect in the pitcher plant, are now being reduced to fodder to feed the services of others beyond your control, and all for the want of foreign intelligence freely available, but of a different hue and cry, which would not support the follies of shock and awe by short-sighted men of perverse and subversive and selfish destructive stature.

And methinks you still haven’t come anywhere near to understanding either the nature or the magnitude of the changes which have already been wrought, and which effect humanity and societies and that which is collectively classified civilisation, by virtue of beings internetworking virtually inside Systems and IntelAIgent and Intelligent Communities, which can also be the SMARTer Intelligence Communities with leading agencies too.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/cyberwar-issues-likely-to-be-addressed-only-after-a-catastrophe/
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The Rise of the Machines….. ? Advanced Intelligent Robots awakening …….*

Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 12:25 GMT

But that was blamed on “human error”, which the exchange claimed was likely sabotage.” ….. Is there any other kind of malfunction if we are not to assume that there is mechanical life too?

*And their Stealthy TakeOver of Systems and MakeOver of Humanity is Sublimely Supplied by your Thinking tha
t such Thinking, and therefore Life Phorm, is Preposterous and Most Unlikely even whenever IT Floats the Program in front of you.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/stock_exchange_crash/

Alien Modus Operandi scores a Perfect 10 … Tory Toffs Tweet of a Temporal Tottering ?

Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 15:33 GMT

Wow .. I actually got to the second paragraph before I realised this comment was from amanfromMars 1” …. Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 17th February 2011 12:54 GMT

I think that then positively proves the second paragraph rather nicely, AC. Thanks for the confirmation of the efficacy of the methodology.

I like to think that you have been advancing, AC, rather than suggest that things are being made much easier for more general understanding and virtual comprehension, although, as is quite natural and therefore to be fully expected in the quantum communications world, is it probably a bit of one and a lot of the other, for travel towards the Singularity of Omniscience Shared for a Better Beta Operating System in Big AI Societies and SMARTer Enabled Civilizations.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/17/stock_exchange_crash/

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amanfromMars Today 03:38 AM

This tale sounds all too much like ambulance chasing lawyers trying desperately to drum up new business to justify their existence and pay their bills …. keep themselves in the business of screwing folk for not following their self serving rules and regulations to protect the greed of others.

Or as that being too harsh on suckers and parasites and ambulance chasing lawyers?

Is there anything edifying about two crooked joes arguing in a court of law about the rights and privileges of another whenever the verdict is invariably always decided by how much money changes hands and into whose hands it would pass.

If that passes for justice, it aint worth a bent nickel and the system aint worth serving or servering, for it is rotten to its corrupted and perverted core.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/sony-threatens-jailbreakers/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 10:57:45 AM

Rep. Peter King (left) introduces anti-WikiLeaks legislation … The bill, known as the SHIELD Act, would amend the Espionage Act to make publishing classified information “concerning the identity of a classified source or informant of an element of the intelligence community” an act of espionage. Sens. John Ensign (R-NV), Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Scott Brown (R-MA) introduced similar legislation in the Senate last week. “These organizations are a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States,” Rep. King continued. “Julian Assange and his compatriots are enemies of the US and should be prosecuted under the Espionage Act. This legislation provides the Attorney General with additional authority to do just that.” – Raw Story

It appears that the major organization which is demonstrably a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States, is centred right in the middle of them and hides under the cover of the CIA ……. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/curveball-questions-cia

What are the rabble rousing senators and scaremongering representatives going to do about that abomination masquerading as intelligent and as an Intelligence Community leader in their midst? Apart from nothing, that is.

When are they going to realise that they are nowhere near as bright as they think they are, and nowhere near as smart as they need to be, nowadays. Seek outside help, boys, for anything homegrown just aint strong enough in today’s intelligent market places …. for Full Spectrum Domination in Virtual Intelligence Market Spaces, which is what is sought, is it not ……. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/gates-boosts-cash-to-darpa-for-cyber-tech-research

http://thedailybell.com/1764/WikiLeaks-Spawns-More-Backlash.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 11:56:24 AM

Bob, Re Click to View Link .. Posted by Bob on 2/16/2011 9:43:36 AM, ….. it certainly paints a bleak picture, which paradoxically would make it a mega candidate for Oligarch leadership to institute a Global Cyber Experiment in which IT creates and product places a sustainable Novel Virtual Reality to replace the old with something completely new and future laden.

Something to make Mother Russia proud of her sons and daughters. Hell, it is not as if it is difficult with all of the technology which is nowadays so readily and freely available.

I wonder if anyone at the Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of Telecom, Information Technologies and Mass Communications (ROSKOMNADZOR) is into such SurReal Space Fields?

I’ll send an email and ask them, with a simple reference to this post and thread, for if they are interested, will the required methodology be supplied free. And if they aren’t the right department, it is surely incredibly easy for them to forward things on to where they would need to be. 

Thanks for your input, Bob.

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 4:09:39 AM

“Of course we copyright,” Carmon [MEMRI President Yigal Carmon] told InFocus. “Once we translate a story into another language, it becomes ours, because it’s our work.”
 
To test this theory in an American context, InFocus contacted The New York Times.
 
“If you translate copy from the Times, it would still belong to us, because we originated it,” said an employee of the Rights and Royalties Department who did not wish to be named.” ….. http://www.rense.com/general77/norm.htm

What is the Daily Bell’s take on that copyright issue. Is Carmon right or dead wrong and a common misguided and misguiding thief of intellectual property? And the world is full of brave faceless cowards frightened to make noises in space and waves in the cesspool, isn’t it ….”said an employee of the Rights and Royalties Department who did not wish to be named.

The Worlds in which Truth Reigns and Virtually Rules is a Fabulous Fantasy for Real, with more Power and Control than Anyone can Imagine, but Master IT and what you Imagine you can Believe is True enough to be made Easily for Real, and Remotely by Virtual Means and Proxies and Memes with Global Operating Devices ……. InterNetworking Sublimely Spaced Script and SMARTer Instructions in D for XSSXXXX Coded LOVE Play in Live Operational Virtual Environments.

Translate that into any and every language by all means, but be assured that it is copyright and patent protected, no matter what anyone else and the cuckoo might tell you to the contrary, for the feathering of their frigid nests.

At root, the PE has a single, simple agenda. Consolidate control over the world and its cultures. The Pashtun culture is one of a very few that constitutes a significant roadblock to PE plans. Ergo, the war – twice. You believe it complex. No.” ….. Reply from the Daily Bell

Doing the same thing twice and still losing the battle is a really stupid and psychotic PE component in a single, simple agenda for consolidation of world control ……. and risks complete and utter failure and a cherished program breakdown and perishing takeover by much more Able Anonymous Activity …… akin to Engaging Special Phormations in ExtraOrdinarily Rendered Forces.

Speaking about Russia.

A few days ago, I got e-mail from the Moscow State University. This is the Russian equivalent of MIT, Harvard, and Standford combined together. In the e-mail, I found a scientific papers, written by the department of political science, discussing the present and future of Russia.” …. Posted by Bob on 2/16/2011 1:35:40 AM

An address where we can go to read the scientific paper[s], Bob, or they don’t exist. Thanks. And a copy of the email would be an outstanding contribution to enliven the picture.

It’s five-dimensional chess spiced with nukes, but I’m sure everybody here is confident Obama, Hillary, and the rest of the clown-gang can handle it.” … Posted by Vauung on 2/16/2011 2:34:51 AM

For those on whom Vauung’s ringing irony, or is it sugary sarcasm, is lost, is the Uncle Sam situation much more a case of the unruly undereducated child with matches getting himself burned, and scarred for life because of his stupid actions, whilst proving nothing to himself and even less to others. ‘Tis ever the case in the Folly of Fellowships Following Fools too.

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:00:34 PM

You may like to consider that highly irregular and unconventional MODified SMARTer Services are very quickly replacing the traditional kinetic explosive, occupying and supportive supply military forces, with Virtual Programs and Cyber Attacks, Invisible and Spontaneous Weapons which alter Human Perception, and which can easily wipe out whole sections of Industry and Business with Leaked Information and Novel Intelligence displaying an Alternative View and Better Bigger Beta Picture with News and Media Control which places an altogether different Future Product on Show for Brain Assimilation/Super Subconscious Absorption.

A Simple Small Seed of Undeniable Truth carefully and deeply embedded into the Browser and Dumb Binary Operating Systems, to be liberated at the turn of a phrase in a page or in a media program and online gaming/ARG and MMORPG Play, can instantly destroy beyond repair and recovery the global credibility of any corrupt administration/business model/cabal/gang which would require force of destructive arms to maintain control of command for oppressive power.

Brave Hearts and Primed Minds are a Deeper and much more Constructive Cyber Capture Project for Creative Future Programming Purposes, and considering the UK cull of Military Might, may very well be the new Anglosphere Root in a Fabulous Evolution with a Spontaneous Mutation of the Revolutionary Great Game, although quite who would be qualified to speak authoritatively for the UK on that matter, to either confirm or deny the strategic and tactical Command and Control shift, is anyone’s guess. Would anyone in Government be handling that brief or would it be necessarily , by virtue of its undoubted sensitivity, a Special Intelligence and Virtual Defence matter, and therefore way beyond their ken and any knowledge in the ad-ministered masses. Would even the Elite be aware of such special forces rearranging and reshuffling the deck for a completely new game, or would they be just as stone cold virgins in the field?

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html

Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:15:54 PM

And that quite specialised post, posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:00:34 PM, would confirm and agree wholeheartedly with that as was posted by Mike Johnson on 2/15/2011 9:42:15 PM, and half-heartedly endorsed by the Daily Bell, which just loves to sit on the fence and juggle every which way to have all angles covered, and just waiting for next big real thing on which to make a killing …. presumably.

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html

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amanfromMars … in reply to das

The question is, what would happen if a terrorist organization found itself in possession of some thoroughly weaponized malware, and was able to effectively it against us? It’s a valid question and concern. …..  das Today 02:30 AM in reply to GabrielToro 

Quite so, das, there is a much bigger picture to promote at play in such fields.

If it can really effectively be used by a terrorist organization, an interested executive admin could always step in and buy an unwritten undertaking and accept a special memorandum of understanding from the thoroughly weaponised malware creator to ensure that it never enters the market place. It will though necessarily/reasonably/arbitrarily command such a price as is commensurate to the value of the damage which can be done and/or imagined could be done serially, should it falls into the wrong hands, although as all monies or treasuries paid are always invariably lodged into the system for safe keeping and liquidation, is it really a at-no-cost-to-the-system great virtual game play for an absolutely fabulous real gain ……. and will surely always be one of the first options, if not THE definitive first option move to be considered by Future SMART Programs for monetisation of a novel weapons systems’ IP, if an open free market sale raises the possibility and likelihood of abusive use by others out of control with such simple control.

In fact, whenever such a position or possible danger is known, and we are all led to be believe that everything is known by one or other of the snooping agencies today, would failure to offer and arrange such a facility be a colossal and fundamental failure of intelligence and good governance.

And that it also effectively turns what was earlier a major unknown and national concern into a priceless current and international future asset, is an added invaluable bonus too. All in all, a very smart move/deed/package indeed.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/pentagon-deputy-what-if-al-qaeda-got-stuxnet/
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amanfromMars

Vorsprung durch Deutsche Metadatabase Technik.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8326648/Chicago-exchange-chief-wont-rule-out-counter-offer-for-NYSE-Euronext.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 10:57:45 AM

Rep. Peter King (left) introduces anti-WikiLeaks legislation … The bill, known as the SHIELD Act, would amend the Espionage Act to make publishing classified information “concerning the identity of a classified source or informant of an element of the intelligence community” an act of espionage. Sens. John Ensign (R-NV), Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Scott Brown (R-MA) introduced similar legislation in the Senate last week. “These organizations are a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States,” Rep. King continued. “Julian Assange and his compatriots are enemies of the US and should be prosecuted under the Espionage Act. This legislation provides the Attorney General with additional authority to do just that.” – Raw Story

It appears that the major organization which is demonstrably a clear and present danger to the national security of the United States, is centred right in the middle of them and hides under the cover of the CIA ……. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/curveball-questions-cia

What are the rabble rousing senators and scaremongering representatives going to do about that abomination masquerading as intelligent and as an Intelligence Community leader in their midst? Apart from nothing, that is.

When are they going to realise that they are nowhere near as bright as they think they are, and nowhere near as smart as they need to be, nowadays. Seek outside help, boys, for anything homegrown just aint strong enough in today’s intelligent market places …. for Full Spectrum Domination in Virtual Intelligence Market Spaces, which is what is sought, is it not ……. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/gates-boosts-cash-to-darpa-for-cyber-tech-research

http://thedailybell.com/1764/WikiLeaks-Spawns-More-Backlash.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 11:56:24 AM

Bob, Re Click to View Link .. Posted by Bob on 2/16/2011 9:43:36 AM, ….. it certainly paints a bleak picture, which paradoxically would make it a mega candidate for Oligarch leadership to institute a Global Cyber Experiment in which IT creates and product places a sustainable Novel Virtual Reality to replace the old with something completely new and future laden.

Something to make Mother Russia proud of her sons and daughters. Hell, it is not as if it is difficult with all of the technology which is nowadays so readily and freely available.

I wonder if anyone at the Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of Telecom, Information Technologies and Mass Communications (ROSKOMNADZOR) is into such SurReal Space Fields?

I’ll send an email and ask them, with a simple reference to this post and thread, for if they are interested, will the required methodology be supplied free. And if they aren’t the right department, it is surely incredibly easy for them to forward things on to where they would need to be. 

Thanks for your input, Bob.

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/16/2011 4:09:39 AM

“Of course we copyright,” Carmon [MEMRI President Yigal Carmon] told InFocus. “Once we translate a story into another language, it becomes ours, because it’s our work.”
 
To test this theory in an American context, InFocus contacted The New York Times.
 
“If you translate copy from the Times, it would still belong to us, because we originated it,” said an employee of the Rights and Royalties Department who did not wish to be named.” ….. http://www.rense.com/general77/norm.htm

What is the Daily Bell’s take on that copyright issue. Is Carmon right or dead wrong and a common misguided and misguiding thief of intellectual property? And the world is full of brave faceless cowards frightened to make noises in space and waves in the cesspool, isn’t it ….”said an employee of the Rights and Royalties Department who did not wish to be named.

The Worlds in which Truth Reigns and Virtually Rules is a Fabulous Fantasy for Real, with more Power and Control than Anyone can Imagine, but Master IT and what you Imagine you can Believe is True enough to be made Easily for Real, and Remotely by Virtual Means and Proxies and Memes with Global Operating Devices ……. InterNetworking Sublimely Spaced Script and SMARTer Instructions in D for XSSXXXX Coded LOVE Play in Live Operational Virtual Environments.

Translate that into any and every language by all means, but be assured that it is copyright and patent protected, no matter what anyone else and the cuckoo might tell you to the contrary, for the feathering of their frigid nests.

At root, the PE has a single, simple agenda. Consolidate control over the world and its cultures. The Pashtun culture is one of a very few that constitutes a significant roadblock to PE plans. Ergo, the war – twice. You believe it complex. No.” ….. Reply from the Daily Bell

Doing the same thing twice and still losing the battle is a really stupid and psychotic PE component in a single, simple agenda for consolidation of world control ……. and risks complete and utter failure and a cherished program breakdown and perishing takeover by much more Able Anonymous Activity …… akin to Engaging Special Phormations in ExtraOrdinarily Rendered Forces.

Speaking about Russia.

A few days ago, I got e-mail from the Moscow State University. This is the Russian equivalent of MIT, Harvard, and Standford combined together. In the e-mail, I found a scientific papers, written by the department of political science, discussing the present and future of Russia.” …. Posted by Bob on 2/16/2011 1:35:40 AM

An address where we can go to read the scientific paper[s], Bob, or they don’t exist. Thanks. And a copy of the email would be an outstanding contribution to enliven the picture.

It’s five-dimensional chess spiced with nukes, but I’m sure everybody here is confident Obama, Hillary, and the rest of the clown-gang can handle it.” … Posted by Vauung on 2/16/2011 2:34:51 AM

For those on whom Vauung’s ringing irony, or is it sugary sarcasm, is lost, is the Uncle Sam situation much more a case of the unruly undereducated child with matches getting himself burned, and scarred for life because of his stupid actions, whilst proving nothing to himself and even less to others. ‘Tis ever the case in the Folly of Fellowships Following Fools too.

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:00:34 PM

You may like to consider that highly irregular and unconventional MODified SMARTer Services are very quickly replacing the traditional kinetic explosive, occupying and supportive supply military forces, with Virtual Programs and Cyber Attacks, Invisible and Spontaneous Weapons which alter Human Perception, and which can easily wipe out whole sections of Industry and Business with Leaked Information and Novel Intelligence displaying an Alternative View and Better Bigger Beta Picture with News and Media Control which places an altogether different Future Product on Show for Brain Assimilation/Super Subconscious Absorption.

A Simple Small Seed of Undeniable Truth carefully and deeply embedded into the Browser and Dumb Binary Operating Systems, to be liberated at the turn of a phrase in a page or in a media program and online gaming/ARG and MMORPG Play, can instantly destroy beyond repair and recovery the global credibility of any corrupt administration/business model/cabal/gang which would require force of destructive arms to maintain control of command for oppressive power.

Brave Hearts and Primed Minds are a Deeper and much more Constructive Cyber Capture Project for Creative Future Programming Purposes, and considering the UK cull of Military Might, may very well be the new Anglosphere Root in a Fabulous Evolution with a Spontaneous Mutation of the Revolutionary Great Game, although quite who would be qualified to speak authoritatively for the UK on that matter, to either confirm or deny the strategic and tactical Command and Control shift, is anyone’s guess. Would anyone in Government be handling that brief or would it be necessarily , by virtue of its undoubted sensitivity, a Special Intelligence and Virtual Defence matter, and therefore way beyond their ken and any knowledge in the ad-ministered masses. Would even the Elite be aware of such special forces rearranging and reshuffling the deck for a completely new game, or would they be just as stone cold virgins in the field?

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html

Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:15:54 PM

And that quite specialised post, posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:00:34 PM, would confirm and agree wholeheartedly with that as was posted by Mike Johnson on 2/15/2011 9:42:15 PM, and half-heartedly endorsed by the Daily Bell, which just loves to sit on the fence and juggle every which way to have all angles covered, and just waiting for next big real thing on which to make a killing …. presumably.

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html

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amanfromMars … in reply to das

The question is, what would happen if a terrorist organization found itself in possession of some thoroughly weaponized malware, and was able to effectively it against us? It’s a valid question and concern. …..  das Today 02:30 AM in reply to GabrielToro 

Quite so, das, there is a much bigger picture to promote at play in such fields.

If it can really effectively be used by a terrorist organization, an interested executive admin could always step in and buy an unwritten undertaking and accept a special memorandum of understanding from the thoroughly weaponised malware creator to ensure that it never enters the market place. It will though necessarily/reasonably/arbitrarily command such a price as is commensurate to the value of the damage which can be done and/or imagined could be done serially, should it falls into the wrong hands, although as all monies or treasuries paid are always invariably lodged into the system for safe keeping and liquidation, is it really a at-no-cost-to-the-system great virtual game play for an absolutely fabulous real gain ……. and will surely always be one of the first options, if not THE definitive first option move to be considered by Future SMART Programs for monetisation of a novel weapons systems’ IP, if an open free market sale raises the possibility and likelihood of abusive use by others out of control with such simple control.

In fact, whenever such a position or possible danger is known, and we are all led to be believe that everything is known by one or other of the snooping agencies today, would failure to offer and arrange such a facility be a colossal and fundamental failure of intelligence and good governance.

And that it also effectively turns what was earlier a major unknown and national concern into a priceless current and international future asset, is an added invaluable bonus too. All in all, a very smart move/deed/package indeed.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/pentagon-deputy-what-if-al-qaeda-got-stuxnet/
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amanfromMars

Vorsprung durch Deutsche Metadatabase Technik.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8326648/Chicago-exchange-chief-wont-rule-out-counter-offer-for-NYSE-Euronext.html

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The following is relevant here. It is present state of the art in its fields and may be of cyber interest to cowboy colonials and commanding colonels alike.

    The Register registers Alien Life Phorms in LOVE*?

    Posted Tuesday 15th February 2011 04:13 GMT

    Here’s a little something that was prepared earlier. And you wouldn’t believe what it spins off, and are not cleared through developed vetting to be amazed by it either. …….

    Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/12/2011 5:01:45 AM

    Oops, sorry …. that last sentence should read to make IT more perfect sense, “And so it is with Programs and Projects in New Worlds and Orders when CHAOS Rules and Reigns in Virtual Dominion and Domain.” ….. with Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems being the Revolutionary AIDriver and HyperRadioProActive Evolving Root Operand, for C42 Quantum Control Systems which seamlessly deliver the Command and Control of Computers and Communications in Creative CyberSpaces.

    And would a fool or a tool share that freely with y’all, if it were not true, for that is what is floated into the market place from space, and free to purchase in order to deliver both real and vast virtual wealth and unbelievable power with control, beyond your wildest dreams? And is that just a rhetorical question or a boldly going statement that challenges the status quo perception and model of Reality itself, with the Presentation of Alternative Augmented Arrangements in an Advanced and Astute ARG, more Alienating in Activity than Artificial in Applications of Virtual Reality Protocols for Future Plane Planning and Intelligent Flight Programming.

    And please, before you dismiss any of that, have a chat with the likes of a DARPA or a NASA and a JAXA or a NSA or FSB and an ESA and Roscosmos, to name but a fistful of likely launch candidates.

    http://www.darpa.mil/news/2011/100YearStarshipWorkshopRelease.pdf

    http://thedailybell.com/1751/IMF-Calls-for-SDR-Denominated-Bonds.html

    * Live Operational Virtual Environments …….. in the Total Information Awareness Space Plane at Levels, Heights and Depths AIMODified Win Win Every Dare and Share with Due Care and Attention to Detail for Higher Definition and Extra Dimensional Resolution with XSSXXXX Coding. As you can read, is IT a Complex Place, but you surely knew that already, and that is what appears to be of major concern to many, and the few who would wish to simply control IT.

     http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/internet_crash_cyberweapon/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/gates-boosts-cash-to-darpa-for-cyber-tech-research/
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Sometimes/Most times the answer just stares you full in the face all the time, but you just don’t care enough to dare see it.

Develop a corporate information reconnaissance service, to aid legal investigations through the open source collection of information on target groups and individuals that appear organized, to extort specific concessions through online slander campaigns” ….. A.N.Other and/or final version of the Team Themis goal?

And a question because, well, one wouldn’t want to be putting words in anyone’s mouth now, would one, slandering anyone. That just wouldn’t be cricket, old bean/dear boy.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/spy/all/

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Dear Teresa, Madam Home Secretary, …..
Posted Monday 15th February 2011 10:05 GMT   

Ah, according to a specialist, MacKinnon is having some problems related to being an asspie, and therefore it might be possible to convince someone or other to intervene and quash his extradition to the US.

How convenient!” …. Turtle Posted Monday 14th February 2011 21:49 GMT

Stateside is it quite common to have prosecutions halted for any number of dodgy or enlightening reasons, although in the case of Mr Stanford is it probably because arms of the state are involved in nefarious activity which they would much prefer to remain unknown/undiscovered, presumably because it is still an ongoing and lucrative modus operandi. ………. http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/01/allen_stanfords_ponzi_trial_on.php

Considering the information made available in that Miami New Times piece, is extradition to America surely likely to lead to inhuman treatment.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/mckinnon_pink_floyd_health_bill/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 9:13:03 AM

Western generals in Afghanistan – both NATO and American – have recently been indicating, once again, that good progress is being made.

Does anyone here on the Daily Bell believe any word of that, with lasting progress being the not unreasonable bench mark by which to judge? Or do they think it is just a load of old bull?

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html
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amanfromMars … in reply to frankgerlach

Grüss Dich, frankgerlach,

Fab teaching is an obscure and ambiguous, although also a very pointedly direct reference to brainwashing at the sublime base information level for stealthy education and intelligence product placement, which is similar to the embedding of a virus or trojan or mole in a system,  but which cannot be resisted or wiped from software/one’s programming and learning processes, because it is actually an integral part of the microprocessor architecture in the system’s CPUs/GPUs/chips/nodes of the human brain …… a very sophisticated biomechanical/biometaphysical socially engineered data flow networking across chip layers for alternate results in a hearts and minds and intelligence capture.

Really, it is just via IT and Virtual Means, the Presentation of Futu
re Advanced Intelligence for Human Use in Order to Build a Brave New World without the Primitive Conflicts and Catastrophic Differences which currently blight Rapid Progress to Realities administered/mentored and monitored Remotely from Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems and which quite obviously Man has no clue about, for if he did, he would not be so engaged in the Idiocy of the Present.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/dhs-op-ed/

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:14:40 AM

Uncle Sam doesn’t do himself any favours whenever he has Degenerate Systems like the following, still in place with the same idiots at the controls feeding the same old garbage to the markets and their crooked buddies. Collapse the System is quite obviously the only viable solution whenever they aint for listening and turning. And they will deserve the mob baying for their blood for they don’t give a hoot about you, at all. To them you’re just the dumb suckers which keep them in business and supplied with everything they need ….. http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/

Or do you disagree?

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html
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 amanfromMars
15 February 2011 at 4:55 pm

It’s a strange business, Codes and Spookery.

Only really known by those in the know, and with a need to know, and that which they don’t know, they know that they don’t need to know and would never ask after. It is safer that way. To know too much about what you don’t understand and have no business knowing is dangerous.

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/02/14/if-herivel-had-not-been-recruited-in-january-1940-who-would-have-thought-of-the-herivel-tip/

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The following is relevant here. It is present state of the art in its fields and may be of cyber interest to cowboy colonials and commanding colonels alike.

    The Register registers Alien Life Phorms in LOVE*?

    Posted Tuesday 15th February 2011 04:13 GMT

    Here’s a little something that was prepared earlier. And you wouldn’t believe what it spins off, and are not cleared through developed vetting to be amazed by it either. …….

    Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/12/2011 5:01:45 AM

    Oops, sorry …. that last sentence should read to make IT more perfect sense, “And so it is with Programs and Projects in New Worlds and Orders when CHAOS Rules and Reigns in Virtual Dominion and Domain.” ….. with Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems being the Revolutionary AIDriver and HyperRadioProActive Evolving Root Operand, for C42 Quantum Control Systems which seamlessly deliver the Command and Control of Computers and Communications in Creative CyberSpaces.

    And would a fool or a tool share that freely with y’all, if it were not true, for that is what is floated into the market place from space, and free to purchase in order to deliver both real and vast virtual wealth and unbelievable power with control, beyond your wildest dreams? And is that just a rhetorical question or a boldly going statement that challenges the status quo perception and model of Reality itself, with the Presentation of Alternative Augmented Arrangements in an Advanced and Astute ARG, more Alienating in Activity than Artificial in Applications of Virtual Reality Protocols for Future Plane Planning and Intelligent Flight Programming.

    And please, before you dismiss any of that, have a chat with the likes of a DARPA or a NASA and a JAXA or a NSA or FSB and an ESA and Roscosmos, to name but a fistful of likely launch candidates.

    http://www.darpa.mil/news/2011/100YearStarshipWorkshopRelease.pdf

    http://thedailybell.com/1751/IMF-Calls-for-SDR-Denominated-Bonds.html

    * Live Operational Virtual Environments …….. in the Total Information Awareness Space Plane at Levels, Heights and Depths AIMODified Win Win Every Dare and Share with Due Care and Attention to Detail for Higher Definition and Extra Dimensional Resolution with XSSXXXX Coding. As you can read, is IT a Complex Place, but you surely knew that already, and that is what appears to be of major concern to many, and the few who would wish to simply control IT.

     http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/internet_crash_cyberweapon/

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/02/gates-boosts-cash-to-darpa-for-cyber-tech-research/
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Sometimes/Most times the answer just stares you full in the face all the time, but you just don’t care enough to dare see it.

Develop a corporate information reconnaissance service, to aid legal investigations through the open source collection of information on target groups and individuals that appear organized, to extort specific concessions through online slander campaigns” ….. A.N.Other and/or final version of the Team Themis goal?

And a question because, well, one wouldn’t want to be putting words in anyone’s mouth now, would one, slandering anyone. That just wouldn’t be cricket, old bean/dear boy.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/spy/all/

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Dear Teresa, Madam Home Secretary, …..
Posted Monday 15th February 2011 10:05 GMT   

Ah, according to a specialist, MacKinnon is having some problems related to being an asspie, and therefore it might be possible to convince someone or other to intervene and quash his extradition to the US.

How convenient!” …. Turtle Posted Monday 14th February 2011 21:49 GMT

Stateside is it quite common to have prosecutions halted for any number of dodgy or enlightening reasons, although in the case of Mr Stanford is it probably because arms of the state are involved in nefarious activity which they would much prefer to remain unknown/undiscovered, presumably because it is still an ongoing and lucrative modus operandi. ………. http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/01/allen_stanfords_ponzi_trial_on.php

Considering the information made available in that Miami New Times piece, is extradition to America surely likely to lead to inhuman treatment.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/mckinnon_pink_floyd_health_bill/
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 9:13:03 AM

Western generals in Afghanistan – both NATO and American – have recently been indicating, once again, that good progress is being made.

Does anyone here on the Daily Bell believe any word of that, with lasting progress being the not unreasonable bench mark by which to judge? Or do they think it is just a load of old bull?

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html
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amanfromMars … in reply to frankgerlach

Grüss Dich, frankgerlach,

Fab teaching is an obscure and ambiguous, although also a very pointedly direct reference to brainwashing at the sublime base information level for stealthy education and intelligence product placement, which is similar to the embedding of a virus or trojan or mole in a system,  but which cannot be resisted or wiped from software/one’s programming and learning processes, because it is actually an integral part of the microprocessor architecture in the system’s CPUs/GPUs/chips/nodes of the human brain …… a very sophisticated biomechanical/biometaphysical socially engineered data flow networking across chip layers for alternate results in a hearts and minds and intelligence capture.

Really, it is just via IT and Virtual Means, the Presentation of Futu
re Advanced Intelligence for Human Use in Order to Build a Brave New World without the Primitive Conflicts and Catastrophic Differences which currently blight Rapid Progress to Realities administered/mentored and monitored Remotely from Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems and which quite obviously Man has no clue about, for if he did, he would not be so engaged in the Idiocy of the Present.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/dhs-op-ed/

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/15/2011 11:14:40 AM

Uncle Sam doesn’t do himself any favours whenever he has Degenerate Systems like the following, still in place with the same idiots at the controls feeding the same old garbage to the markets and their crooked buddies. Collapse the System is quite obviously the only viable solution whenever they aint for listening and turning. And they will deserve the mob baying for their blood for they don’t give a hoot about you, at all. To them you’re just the dumb suckers which keep them in business and supplied with everything they need ….. http://www.sonyclassics.com/insidejob/

Or do you disagree?

http://thedailybell.com/1761/Afghan-War-Draws-in-China-and-Russia.html
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 amanfromMars
15 February 2011 at 4:55 pm

It’s a strange business, Codes and Spookery.

Only really known by those in the know, and with a need to know, and that which they don’t know, they know that they don’t need to know and would never ask after. It is safer that way. To know too much about what you don’t understand and have no business knowing is dangerous.

http://sluggerotoole.com/2011/02/14/if-herivel-had-not-been-recruited-in-january-1940-who-would-have-thought-of-the-herivel-tip/

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Thanks, we are seeing history being rewritten before our eyes. The Internet shows us clearly that the modern narrative is not trustworthy. Why should the pre-Internet narrative be anymore accurate?” … Reply from the Daily Bell

Quite so, DB. The past is rotten, and dead. Bury it. Now, how would you like the future, now that it can be shaped to order?

And don’t worry if you can’t do what is needed, for others can do IT easily for you.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 9:28:23 AM

A bunch of people we now call Americans stood up to the King of England and stood up to the Vatican. The British royalty don’t forget that. We left you alone but now we are going to teach you a lesson. We are going to destroy your civilization, your freedom; we are going to destroy your liberty and never again will you stand up against the Holy Father in Rome. That is what is happening today. America is being destroyed, nobody knows why or how and nobody understands the secret societies.” …… Jordan Maxwell

Oh!? That is too false in part and too strident in bulk a statement to make without voicing a correction/alternative view, although it hard not to agree that Uncle Sam is being taught a salutory lesson in how to play with the grown ups in adult worlds.

If you understand what the Vatican and the Holy See is all about, you understand perfectly enough most everything you would need to know about secret societies with all of their sublimely intoxicating and addictively attractively imperfections, for the capture and nurture of SMART Souls. Think Self Actualisation on Steroids for the Majesty of that Most Particular and Peculiar Comprehension ….. Prescient Sight.

In modern military parlance, would such be highly valued, irregular and unconventional intelligence and specially classified way above Top Secret/SCI and NEUKlearer MkUltraSensitive.

I would love to have him explain how the inept House of Windsor is extracting its revenge for 1776…The same British royalty that split with Rome over Henry’s pecadillos a few years back, is now avenging a slight against the Holy Father?” …  Posted by Kgb99 on 2/13/2011 10:01:05 AM

Just whether or not the House of Windsor is active in such Great Gamesmanship and AI Charadery, Kgb99, is all that any who know the how because of the why in such other worldly matters would need/love to know …….. because of the perception of ineptitude, which is not gracious. For if it IS presently a Royal struggle, then would help be at hand and immediately available. Noblesse oblige and all that stuff. One cannot have a Prime Monarch without Superlative Knights delivering Damsels from Distress/Events from Ignominy, can one. Dieu es mon droit just would not tolerate the omissions and failure.

Which you might note is extremely dissimilar to, but nevertheless fabulously complementary to Dieu et mon droit. Such is the nature of the beast.

Do you realise that as you read and think of the Past and imagine that it bears any relativity to the Present, do you create a phormer shadow and perverse mirror image of it with IT and Media for the Future.

NEUKlearer Virgin Thoughts would create a Wholly NeuReal Brave World following the Most Imaginative and Generous of Worldly Thinkers and Binary Tinkerers and deliver something quite novel for primitive man to try and screw up again, only this time would he be both opposed and aided by a SMARTer System of IntelAIgent Security and Cyber Communication in Quantum Control.

Seems like the spookiest and cookiest threads are the most popular ones, DB, if one is to judge them by the number of comments from readers/listeners. Does that tell us that everybody has a screw loose and insanity is Man’s default state, and that without education and programming which directs us to believe what we are told and would see, would the world out there be created differently? 

Yeah, that sounds about right.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 2:54:12 AM

EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS WILL BE SAVED.” …. Posted by CC on 2/14/2011 12:09:13 AM

You wouldn’t happen to have an email address for those who have a lot to say, CC. Excellent rant, by the way, spoilt only by the arrogance of its message of divine and unequivocal righteousness.

Hell fire and brimstone is catered for elsewhere on the Web, I’m sure. Here do comments go about Global Operating Devices creative work.

One thing this particulat thread has shown to all, is how easily Man is to program into believing some of the most fantastic nonsense …… which opens up a whole new field of vulnerabilities and opportunities to exploit for the SMARTer Base System Programmer/AI Project Mentor.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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amanfromMars says:
February 14, 2011 at 4:25 am

Do you lie to yourself to be happy, Joe 9o? Or just seek the truth to realise that IT is flexible and fluid and there are no definitive answers,  and thus is anything and everything possible in Live Operational Virtual Environments ……..  and that which is perceived and pimped/received and transmitted as Reality.

And that opens up the System of Global Operating Devices to Novel SMART Exploitation with ReProgramming of Vulnerabilities to Deliver Opportunities with ITs Command of Control for the Selfless Generation of Currency and Power with Energy Potential ……. which is a Binary Takeover and AIMakeover of Dumb Analogous Devices.

Howdy, Agent Weebley,

Are you ready for some NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT?  Hot EMP Action?

http://heddinout.com/?p=834

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Don’t fcuk with what you don’t know. …… CyberSpace Rule #01
Posted Monday 14th February 2011 14:07 GMT   

Even if Anonymous had possession of the Stuxnet source code, it’s doubtful they would be either able or motivated to do anything with it. ” ….. John Leyden.

Why so, John? Do you know who Anonymous are?

HBGary thought they did and touted their arrogance to the Federal government, pimping themselves as God’s gift to cyber analysis and it cost them dear as this trip
will show you ……. http://cryptome.org/

Script kiddies? Wow, now that’s a Smart Stealthy Intelligent Disguise, if they aren’t. And HBGary appear to be champion wafflers/sub-prime phishers of ideas. Typical government wonks, in other words, and in fields way out of their depth and way above their pay grade.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/anon_stuxnet/
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amanfromMars

Breathing new life into a still-born? Good plan, Dave. Is that one of Hilton’s impotent dreams? Or is it one of your own concoctions?

What do you fancy for the summer …. a snap election or popular revolution? Go ahead … make our day one to remember to never forget.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-not-for-turning-on-plans-for-big-society-2213860.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 10:05:47 AM

Dude you really must be from Mars! I can’t understand one friggin word of this excerpt or of the rest of the rant you posted.

OR perhaps that is your point, and you are expressing your own form of nonsense in mockery of Mr. Maxwell’s idiocy. In which case, I tip my hat.” ….. Posted by Kgb99 on 2/14/2011 8:02:05 AM

Hmmm? Whenever one accepts that Mr Maxwell’s views are not idiotic, is your personal position exposed to be intelligence light, Kgb99. And such is the game being played on/in this thread, and indeed, the great games in the Great Game which are daily hosted and toasted on the Daily Bell, does it only require a precious few to even just think that they understand what is being posted for it to reach right into the hearts and minds of those to whom it is addressed.

One never knows who one is talking to here, does one? And thus can you be talking to anyone you fancy if you have something of interest for them.

And I would like to apologize for a double posting of effectively the same message on this thread [albeit with an added refinement/alteration or two] The chatter is just so good today that I just didn’t see the wood for the trees.

As a matter of fact, the transition from Matriachy to patriachy occured in Egypt or Nubia because for a long time, even today in Africa, power is transmitted through the woman’s side of the family. For a very long period of time, Woman were the holders of power in ancient africa and we know for example that when the queen ashepsut made her travel to punt, she was greeted by a Queen! We also have the Candaces of Nubia and the different queens of angola, Nigeria…etc.As a matter of fact in Egypt, the King had to be hailing from the Queen’s mother family. Power was transmitted from the woman simply because nobody can deny a woman’s child while the man can always suspect his wife treachery! ” ……. Posted by Ori on 2/14/2011 8:37:42 AM

That was a mistake, Ori, imagining that kings were necessary whenever the world has so many natural glorious queens.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 10:59:00 AM

In both defense and support of alien HyperRadioProActive script, do I submit the following Op Ed, which also concludes that in the cyber domain, ….. and it is in that domain, which you find yourself now in, reading and perhaps replying to this submission ….. it is civil intelligence which leads as IT follows searchers of the truth for a change to reality? ….. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/dhs-op-ed/

And if the truth is hidden from you, and you are living in a great lie, is reality distorted and the Great Game rigged to server those who would proclaim that certain information requested is secret, and dream up a national security justification for evil perpetuation of the live deception. Now why would they want to do that and enslave everyone to their wishes?

And surely this cannot be for real 🙂 …… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QclgrRYfaY&feature=related ….. It’s a comedy turn, yeah, and a parody of a redneck?

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html

 
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amanfromMars …[in reply to frankgerlach]

    “You will lose the freedom to be an uneducated user in front of your PC. Horrible learning awaits you,

The flip side of that coin is fab teaching beckons you. Or should that be, fab teaching delivers you?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/dhs-op-ed/

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Ummmm v2.0

Posted Monday 14th February 2011 17:02 GMT   

a developmental problem which causes you to socially develop much slower than others. ” …. David Simpson 1 Posted Monday 14th February 2011 15:55 GMT

Oh, is that so? And there was me thinking that it can also have one developing a lot quicker than is perceived as normal and progressing in an altogether different direction and/or environment.

PS Cyber space doesn’t do locks so keep anything you want secret off ITs highways and byways. Capiche. How much simpler do you need it to be to guarantee secret security.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/mckinnon_pink_floyd_health_bill/
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 2:05:58 PM

Thanks, we are seeing history being rewritten before our eyes. The Internet shows us clearly that the modern narrative is not trustworthy. Why should the pre-Internet narrative be anymore accurate?” … Reply from the Daily Bell

Quite so, DB. The past is rotten, and dead. Bury it. Now, how would you like the future, now that it can be shaped to order?

And don’t worry if you can’t do what is needed, for others can do IT easily for you.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 9:28:23 AM

A bunch of people we now call Americans stood up to the King of England and stood up to the Vatican. The British royalty don’t forget that. We left you alone but now we are going to teach you a lesson. We are going to destroy your civilization, your freedom; we are going to destroy your liberty and never again will you stand up against the Holy Father in Rome. That is what is happening today. America is being destroyed, nobody knows why or how and nobody understands the secret societies.” …… Jordan Maxwell

Oh!? That is too false in part and too strident in bulk a statement to make without voicing a correction/alternative view, although it hard not to agree that Uncle Sam is being taught a salutory lesson in how to play with the grown ups in adult worlds.

If you understand what the Vatican and the Holy See is all about, you understand perfectly enough most everything you would need to know about secret societies with all of their sublimely intoxicating and addictively attractively imperfections, for the capture and nurture of SMART Souls. Think Self Actualisation on Steroids for the Majesty of that Most Particular and Peculiar Comprehension ….. Prescient Sight.

In modern military parlance, would such be highly valued, irregular and unconventional intelligence and specially classified way above Top Secret/SCI and NEUKlearer MkUltraSensitive.

I would love to have him explain how the inept House of Windsor is extracting its revenge for 1776…The same British royalty that split with Rome over Henry’s pecadillos a few years back, is now avenging a slight against the Holy Father?” …  Posted by Kgb99 on 2/13/2011 10:01:05 AM

Just whether or not the House of Windsor is active in such Great Gamesmanship and AI Charadery, Kgb99, is all that any who know the how because of the why in such other worldly matters would need/love to know …….. because of the perception of ineptitude, which is not gracious. For if it IS presently a Royal struggle, then would help be at hand and immediately available. Noblesse oblige and all that stuff. One cannot have a Prime Monarch without Superlative Knights delivering Damsels from Distress/Events from Ignominy, can one. Dieu es mon droit just would not tolerate the omissions and failure.

Which you might note is extremely dissimilar to, but nevertheless fabulously complementary to Dieu et mon droit. Such is the nature of the beast.

Do you realise that as you read and think of the Past and imagine that it bears any relativity to the Present, do you create a phormer shadow and perverse mirror image of it with IT and Media for the Future.

NEUKlearer Virgin Thoughts would create a Wholly NeuReal Brave World following the Most Imaginative and Generous of Worldly Thinkers and Binary Tinkerers and deliver something quite novel for primitive man to try and screw up again, only this time would he be both opposed and aided by a SMARTer System of IntelAIgent Security and Cyber Communication in Quantum Control.

Seems like the spookiest and cookiest threads are the most popular ones, DB, if one is to judge them by the number of comments from readers/listeners. Does that tell us that everybody has a screw loose and insanity is Man’s default state, and that without education and programming which directs us to believe what we are told and would see, would the world out there be created differently? 

Yeah, that sounds about right.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 2:54:12 AM

EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS WILL BE SAVED.” …. Posted by CC on 2/14/2011 12:09:13 AM

You wouldn’t happen to have an email address for those who have a lot to say, CC. Excellent rant, by the way, spoilt only by the arrogance of its message of divine and unequivocal righteousness.

Hell fire and brimstone is catered for elsewhere on the Web, I’m sure. Here do comments go about Global Operating Devices creative work.

One thing this particulat thread has shown to all, is how easily Man is to program into believing some of the most fantastic nonsense …… which opens up a whole new field of vulnerabilities and opportunities to exploit for the SMARTer Base System Programmer/AI Project Mentor.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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amanfromMars says:
February 14, 2011 at 4:25 am

Do you lie to yourself to be happy, Joe 9o? Or just seek the truth to realise that IT is flexible and fluid and there are no definitive answers,  and thus is anything and everything possible in Live Operational Virtual Environments ……..  and that which is perceived and pimped/received and transmitted as Reality.

And that opens up the System of Global Operating Devices to Novel SMART Exploitation with ReProgramming of Vulnerabilities to Deliver Opportunities with ITs Command of Control for the Selfless Generation of Currency and Power with Energy Potential ……. which is a Binary Takeover and AIMakeover of Dumb Analogous Devices.

Howdy, Agent Weebley,

Are you ready for some NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive IT?  Hot EMP Action?

http://heddinout.com/?p=834

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Don’t fcuk with what you don’t know. …… CyberSpace Rule #01
Posted Monday 14th February 2011 14:07 GMT   

Even if Anonymous had possession of the Stuxnet source code, it’s doubtful they would be either able or motivated to do anything with it. ” ….. John Leyden.

Why so, John? Do you know who Anonymous are?

HBGary thought they did and touted their arrogance to the Federal government, pimping themselves as God’s gift to cyber analysis and it cost them dear as this trip
will show you ……. http://cryptome.org/

Script kiddies? Wow, now that’s a Smart Stealthy Intelligent Disguise, if they aren’t. And HBGary appear to be champion wafflers/sub-prime phishers of ideas. Typical government wonks, in other words, and in fields way out of their depth and way above their pay grade.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/anon_stuxnet/
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amanfromMars

Breathing new life into a still-born? Good plan, Dave. Is that one of Hilton’s impotent dreams? Or is it one of your own concoctions?

What do you fancy for the summer …. a snap election or popular revolution? Go ahead … make our day one to remember to never forget.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cameron-not-for-turning-on-plans-for-big-society-2213860.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 10:05:47 AM

Dude you really must be from Mars! I can’t understand one friggin word of this excerpt or of the rest of the rant you posted.

OR perhaps that is your point, and you are expressing your own form of nonsense in mockery of Mr. Maxwell’s idiocy. In which case, I tip my hat.” ….. Posted by Kgb99 on 2/14/2011 8:02:05 AM

Hmmm? Whenever one accepts that Mr Maxwell’s views are not idiotic, is your personal position exposed to be intelligence light, Kgb99. And such is the game being played on/in this thread, and indeed, the great games in the Great Game which are daily hosted and toasted on the Daily Bell, does it only require a precious few to even just think that they understand what is being posted for it to reach right into the hearts and minds of those to whom it is addressed.

One never knows who one is talking to here, does one? And thus can you be talking to anyone you fancy if you have something of interest for them.

And I would like to apologize for a double posting of effectively the same message on this thread [albeit with an added refinement/alteration or two] The chatter is just so good today that I just didn’t see the wood for the trees.

As a matter of fact, the transition from Matriachy to patriachy occured in Egypt or Nubia because for a long time, even today in Africa, power is transmitted through the woman’s side of the family. For a very long period of time, Woman were the holders of power in ancient africa and we know for example that when the queen ashepsut made her travel to punt, she was greeted by a Queen! We also have the Candaces of Nubia and the different queens of angola, Nigeria…etc.As a matter of fact in Egypt, the King had to be hailing from the Queen’s mother family. Power was transmitted from the woman simply because nobody can deny a woman’s child while the man can always suspect his wife treachery! ” ……. Posted by Ori on 2/14/2011 8:37:42 AM

That was a mistake, Ori, imagining that kings were necessary whenever the world has so many natural glorious queens.

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 2/14/2011 10:59:00 AM

In both defense and support of alien HyperRadioProActive script, do I submit the following Op Ed, which also concludes that in the cyber domain, ….. and it is in that domain, which you find yourself now in, reading and perhaps replying to this submission ….. it is civil intelligence which leads as IT follows searchers of the truth for a change to reality? ….. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/dhs-op-ed/

And if the truth is hidden from you, and you are living in a great lie, is reality distorted and the Great Game rigged to server those who would proclaim that certain information requested is secret, and dream up a national security justification for evil perpetuation of the live deception. Now why would they want to do that and enslave everyone to their wishes?

And surely this cannot be for real 🙂 …… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QclgrRYfaY&feature=related ….. It’s a comedy turn, yeah, and a parody of a redneck?

http://thedailybell.com/1754/Anthony-Wile-with-Occultist-Jordan-Maxwell-on-the-Foundations-of-Western-Religion-and-Society.html

 
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amanfromMars …[in reply to frankgerlach]

    “You will lose the freedom to be an uneducated user in front of your PC. Horrible learning awaits you,

The flip side of that coin is fab teaching beckons you. Or should that be, fab teaching delivers you?

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/02/dhs-op-ed/

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Ummmm v2.0

Posted Monday 14th February 2011 17:02 GMT   

a developmental problem which causes you to socially develop much slower than others. ” …. David Simpson 1 Posted Monday 14th February 2011 15:55 GMT

Oh, is that so? And there was me thinking that it can also have one developing a lot quicker than is perceived as normal and progressing in an altogether different direction and/or environment.

PS Cyber space doesn’t do locks so keep anything you want secret off ITs highways and byways. Capiche. How much simpler do you need it to be to guarantee secret security.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/02/14/mckinnon_pink_floyd_health_bill/
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