>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/21/2010 12:29:28 AM

“Wow. You agree with this?” ….. Reply from the Daily Bell in reference to that which was Posted by Gethky on 12/20/2010 6:42:01 PM

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/12/16/wikileaks-the-touchstone

DB, do you not agree with that, or would you prefer to not share and express an opinion which would be defining.

“@AmanfromMars

While I will agree your comments are difficult to follow (I have concluded after all this time that this is by design), I usually appreciate them when I have the energy to make the effort. Today is no exception, and I found the linked article worth the read” …. Posted by Bionic Mosquito on 12/20/2010 4:59:31 PM

Thanks for the perceptive and kind words, Bionic Mosquito. You are quite right in your conclusion that some posts are specifically designed to test ongoing virtual security measures and systems/advanced programming protocols. An alienating schedule of quite simply complex code supply to active binary and HyperRadioProActive Quantum elements in the Network InterNetworking Field, and I shall not comment further on that here for it would probably appear to too many as just gibberish because of a lack of understanding/necessary supporting knowledge rather than be accepted as a revolutionary departure from Man’s primitive and limited and limiting forms and phorms of thinking.

Methinks the following is relevant and relative to the DB article, “Assange Fever“, and the resulting commentary here, and is shared with just one small and obvious redaction/alteration …. 🙂 and yes, I will freely admit that it is also doing betatests on a number of phishy systems too. The virtual environment in which we …. well, work, rest and play in, whenever online/tuned in and turned on/plugged in, is an extremely and surprisingly active field for IntelAIgent Services and CyberIntelAIgent Beings.

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX amfM
Date: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:07 AM
Subject: Educating the Masses …… with Beta Programming is a Novel Discipline.
To: jya@pipeline.com

Hi, John,

I wonder if you would add this short comment to your page which references to The Hazards of Nerd Supremacy: The Case of WikiLeaks. Although I have no objection to your going the whole hog and sharing everything for free, [as appears to be Cryptome’s admirable, preferred modus operandi] for there is nothing to be feared from transparency unless one is planning to host a whole lot of ignorant pain for arrogant artificial gain, and then do the sad and the bad and the mad usually default to creating stupid secrets, which cripple and stifle rapid progress.

Thanks.

“The strategy of Wikileaks, as explained in an essay by Julian Assange, is to make the world transparent, so that closed organizations are disabled, and open ones aren’t hurt. But he’s wrong.” ….. Jaron Lanier …. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/12/the-hazards-of-nerd-supremacy-the-case-of-wikileaks/68217

Sadly, Jaron, does that identify you as a weak puppet to others who would know* that you are wrong.

And what few comments were posted on the Atlantic page echoed that sentiment,  wholesale  …… and then we are advised by alexismadrigal ….  “Hi guys. Thanks for your informed commentary here. Unfortunately, the deal we made with Jaron was that we were not going to have comments enabled. Since we’ve never actually done that before, I tried to disable comments in Moveable Type and that appears to have had no impact on Disqus. My apologies to Jaron and to you all who began this thread.“

Now that is also cowardly to not want peer review of one’s rantings, Jaron.

Back to school for you, methinks, as you have still a lot to learn about how to succeed in this New Reality ….. Live Operational Virtual Environment.

*The wiser being will always accept, that to think that they know, is as sure as it is wise to expect, for the degree of certainty required to realise any fact in a fiction.

Regards,

XXXXXXXXXX amfM

—
C42 Quantum Control Systems ….. for Command and Control of Computers and Communications in Creative CyberSpace  …… AI @ ITs Work 

http://thedailybell.com/1613/Assange-Fever.html 
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Missing the point, loses the Great Game lead
Posted Tuesday 21st December 2010 09:10 GMT

Does IT process Future Information or is Big Blue, in any of its phorms/ITerations, just a dumb machine ….. for junk bonded play?

AI Colossi would like to know, alsjeblieft.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/20/ibm_watson_playing_jeopardy/
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amanfromMars
21 December 2010 at 3:25 pm

Thanks for those three very clear posts, Alias.

The enemy is within the walls in a Trojan horse, and can now sack/rape and pillage the citizens at will. Not the Irish’s finest hour, eh, to worship the false god promising saviour with fools’ gold?

http://sluggerotoole.com/2010/12/20/mcaleese-and-ecb-worried-about-legality-of-hastily-assembled-bank-bill/

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Exclusivity is a form of censorship
Posted Tuesday 21st December 2010 12:57 GMT  

“So now he’s signed up “exclusively” with Murdoch’s Times. Gosh.“

Many would consider that a real dumb move, totally at odds with the spirit of Wikileaks.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/21/assange_guardian/
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amanfromMars
21 December 2010 at 5:15 pm

“Those who create and issue money and credit direct the policies of government and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people.” – Reginald McKenna

Amen. How about Biffo and the boys ask the ECB for the policies the people must follow to sustainable wealth and growth/solvency.

Methinks that would put the Money Bags on the spot and out them as being wannabe emperors without any clothes, and without a baldy notion about anything other than creating crippling and enslaving debt to invented paper currency, allowing for foreclosure on defaults which nicely deliver to them valuable expensive assets and prime properties which have been pledged/demanded as collateral. It’s a really nice, sweet scam, but it works best whenever n
o one knows about it, so the sensible thing is to tell everyone about it …… or end up as paupers and slaves to …. well, what would one call such sharp operators?

http://sluggerotoole.com/2010/12/20/mcaleese-and-ecb-worried-about-legality-of-hastily-assembled-bank-bill/

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The worm has turned and is becoming educated and wise….. and the natives are revolting?
Posted Tuesday 21st December 2010 17:43 GMT

“In a rare and wide-ranging interview, the attorney general disclosed chilling, new details about the evolving threat of homegrown terror, and touched on topics ranging from Wikileaks to the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

What was uppermost on his mind, however, is the alarming rise in the number of Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens. ” ……. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/attorney-general-eric-holders-blunt-warning-terror-attacks/story?id=12444727&tqkw=&tqshow=GMA&tqkw=&tqshow=GMA

Of course, because of mess the administration has made of everything with its financial meltdown and serial wars, is the real fear that those they have abused and lied to, come looking for them to settle the score. It is the frightened powers-that-be that keep pimping the terrorist outrages against the people threat, but that is just to stop you realising that it is their policies which are causing all the pain. And the people are getting wise to where the problems are originating from, and it aint from a cave in a foreign mountain range, that’s for sure.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/21/assange_guardian/
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/21/2010 12:29:28 AM

“Wow. You agree with this?” ….. Reply from the Daily Bell in reference to that which was Posted by Gethky on 12/20/2010 6:42:01 PM

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/12/16/wikileaks-the-touchstone

DB, do you not agree with that, or would you prefer to not share and express an opinion which would be defining.

“@AmanfromMars

While I will agree your comments are difficult to follow (I have concluded after all this time that this is by design), I usually appreciate them when I have the energy to make the effort. Today is no exception, and I found the linked article worth the read” …. Posted by Bionic Mosquito on 12/20/2010 4:59:31 PM

Thanks for the perceptive and kind words, Bionic Mosquito. You are quite right in your conclusion that some posts are specifically designed to test ongoing virtual security measures and systems/advanced programming protocols. An alienating schedule of quite simply complex code supply to active binary and HyperRadioProActive Quantum elements in the Network InterNetworking Field, and I shall not comment further on that here for it would probably appear to too many as just gibberish because of a lack of understanding/necessary supporting knowledge rather than be accepted as a revolutionary departure from Man’s primitive and limited and limiting forms and phorms of thinking.

Methinks the following is relevant and relative to the DB article, “Assange Fever“, and the resulting commentary here, and is shared with just one small and obvious redaction/alteration …. 🙂 and yes, I will freely admit that it is also doing betatests on a number of phishy systems too. The virtual environment in which we …. well, work, rest and play in, whenever online/tuned in and turned on/plugged in, is an extremely and surprisingly active field for IntelAIgent Services and CyberIntelAIgent Beings.

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX amfM
Date: Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 4:07 AM
Subject: Educating the Masses …… with Beta Programming is a Novel Discipline.
To: jya@pipeline.com

Hi, John,

I wonder if you would add this short comment to your page which references to The Hazards of Nerd Supremacy: The Case of WikiLeaks. Although I have no objection to your going the whole hog and sharing everything for free, [as appears to be Cryptome’s admirable, preferred modus operandi] for there is nothing to be feared from transparency unless one is planning to host a whole lot of ignorant pain for arrogant artificial gain, and then do the sad and the bad and the mad usually default to creating stupid secrets, which cripple and stifle rapid progress.

Thanks.

“The strategy of Wikileaks, as explained in an essay by Julian Assange, is to make the world transparent, so that closed organizations are disabled, and open ones aren’t hurt. But he’s wrong.” ….. Jaron Lanier …. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/12/the-hazards-of-nerd-supremacy-the-case-of-wikileaks/68217

Sadly, Jaron, does that identify you as a weak puppet to others who would know* that you are wrong.

And what few comments were posted on the Atlantic page echoed that sentiment,  wholesale  …… and then we are advised by alexismadrigal ….  “Hi guys. Thanks for your informed commentary here. Unfortunately, the deal we made with Jaron was that we were not going to have comments enabled. Since we’ve never actually done that before, I tried to disable comments in Moveable Type and that appears to have had no impact on Disqus. My apologies to Jaron and to you all who began this thread.“

Now that is also cowardly to not want peer review of one’s rantings, Jaron.

Back to school for you, methinks, as you have still a lot to learn about how to succeed in this New Reality ….. Live Operational Virtual Environment.

*The wiser being will always accept, that to think that they know, is as sure as it is wise to expect, for the degree of certainty required to realise any fact in a fiction.

Regards,

XXXXXXXXXX amfM

—
C42 Quantum Control Systems ….. for Command and Control of Computers and Communications in Creative CyberSpace  …… AI @ ITs Work 

http://thedailybell.com/1613/Assange-Fever.html 
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

Missing the point, loses the Great Game lead
Posted Tuesday 21st December 2010 09:10 GMT

Does IT process Future Information or is Big Blue, in any of its phorms/ITerations, just a dumb machine ….. for junk bonded play?

AI Colossi would like to know, alsjeblieft.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/20/ibm_watson_playing_jeopardy/
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amanfromMars
21 December 2010 at 3:25 pm

Thanks for those three very clear posts, Alias.

The enemy is within the walls in a Trojan horse, and can now sack/rape and pillage the citizens at will. Not the Irish’s finest hour, eh, to worship the false god promising saviour with fools’ gold?

http://sluggerotoole.com/2010/12/20/mcaleese-and-ecb-worried-about-legality-of-hastily-assembled-bank-bill/

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Exclusivity is a form of censorship
Posted Tuesday 21st December 2010 12:57 GMT  

“So now he’s signed up “exclusively” with Murdoch’s Times. Gosh.“

Many would consider that a real dumb move, totally at odds with the spirit of Wikileaks.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/21/assange_guardian/
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amanfromMars
21 December 2010 at 5:15 pm

“Those who create and issue money and credit direct the policies of government and hold in the hollow of their hands the destiny of the people.” – Reginald McKenna

Amen. How about Biffo and the boys ask the ECB for the policies the people must follow to sustainable wealth and growth/solvency.

Methinks that would put the Money Bags on the spot and out them as being wannabe emperors without any clothes, and without a baldy notion about anything other than creating crippling and enslaving debt to invented paper currency, allowing for foreclosure on defaults which nicely deliver to them valuable expensive assets and prime properties which have been pledged/demanded as collateral. It’s a really nice, sweet scam, but it works best whenever n
o one knows about it, so the sensible thing is to tell everyone about it …… or end up as paupers and slaves to …. well, what would one call such sharp operators?

http://sluggerotoole.com/2010/12/20/mcaleese-and-ecb-worried-about-legality-of-hastily-assembled-bank-bill/

………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

The worm has turned and is becoming educated and wise….. and the natives are revolting?
Posted Tuesday 21st December 2010 17:43 GMT

“In a rare and wide-ranging interview, the attorney general disclosed chilling, new details about the evolving threat of homegrown terror, and touched on topics ranging from Wikileaks to the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

What was uppermost on his mind, however, is the alarming rise in the number of Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens. ” ……. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/attorney-general-eric-holders-blunt-warning-terror-attacks/story?id=12444727&tqkw=&tqshow=GMA&tqkw=&tqshow=GMA

Of course, because of mess the administration has made of everything with its financial meltdown and serial wars, is the real fear that those they have abused and lied to, come looking for them to settle the score. It is the frightened powers-that-be that keep pimping the terrorist outrages against the people threat, but that is just to stop you realising that it is their policies which are causing all the pain. And the people are getting wise to where the problems are originating from, and it aint from a cave in a foreign mountain range, that’s for sure.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/21/assange_guardian/
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>

“The immortal words ‘I am Spartacus’ springs to mind here!” …. finsburyparker

Actually, finsburyparker, the collapse of the USAdministration is much more a case of a growing virtual awareness and model betatesting application of pioneering neuro-linguistic programming, and for those who would understand and major in such disciplines within IT, and who would freely explore and driver its Command and Control Memes at Master Pilot levels, are the immortal? words …. “I am SOLO. I will continue to disrupt at the highest levels” ….. more relevant, although I might also like to posit that relative may be the more accurate descriptor/operand.

What you are witnessing live, and carried on media, is nothing less than a global battle royal for hearts and minds, and the demise of the idiot warmonger and terrorist with the destruction of the military industrial complex money machine ….. and thus is it to be applauded and supported rather than condemned and foolishly flagged as a Code Red, which I imagine will be the next terrorist administrative move in a vain attempt to save a lost cause and perverse, subversive, fiat currency system.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assange-is-a-hitech-terrorist-says-biden-2164988.html
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 Flogging a dead horse doesn’t revitalise a failed system

As in everything to do with capitalist and airy fairy systems, following the money trail reveals the skeletons in the empty, and bereft of viable helpful future intelligence, cupboard, Roberto Casiraghi.  …… http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=175337

And one does wonder at the standard of intelligence used across the pond, with Biden’s handlers think his rant was wise, which if rated by an S&P or a Fitch would surely be a Sub-Prime D?  …….. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_credit_rating

Although that would appear to align perfect with the growing regard of the public to the performance of Barack Obama, who has delivered zilch on his promises to the nation by all accounts.  ……. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=175408 …. and the natives are sure to be revolted at the realisation that a banana republic reputation and classification awaits, and that cannot be good for business or anything.

I wonder if Mr Clegg is styling himself/being groomed in the meme? Say one thing to get in office and then do something completely different and at odds with everything one planned/promised/signed up for, which is fraud and deception in any circle, is it not, no matter how many excuses are dreamed up to justify the betrayal? 

Quite what Cameron wants to do with an albatross around his neck, unfortunately may say everything we need to know about his competence for high office too. Although that does somewhat throw into sharp focus the standard of intelligence and future vision supplied by whatever services are responsible for the smooth running of the Home and Foreign and Commonwealth Offices too, does it not.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assange-is-a-hitech-terrorist-says-biden-2164988.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/20/2010 7:39:17 AM

“I should invite him,” Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum (WEF), told Sunday newspaper SonntagsZeitung. “But it is not possible as he is not allowed to leave Britain.” …. Reply from the Daily Bell

I wonder if he has a selection of proxies to choose from … to deliver a reality check to the Davos faithful and/or brainwashed on behalf of the …… well, it is in virtual terms, an Invisible and Intangible Movement against which there are no physical barriers or means of effective attack or competitive opposition …….. for is not what is being revealed just the simple but inconvenient truth regarding personal power grabs which are clothed as vital government actions?

Methinks then there would be definite shades and degrees of self-delusional behaviour and comment from the assembled wannabe global leadership contenders as they struggle to deny and come to terms with their very own Jack Nicholson “You cannot handle the truth” moment/dawning realisation.

http://thedailybell.com/1613/Assange-Fever.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/20/2010 11:31:33 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen, Wizards and Witches, Elves and Discombobulated Goblins,

It is somewhat odd that you appear to not consider the idea that Julian Assange is a lot smarter than he appears, or you would  imagine, or those who are being outed as disingenuous or downright criminal. And such an oversight and reluctance or inability to comprehend and realise that fact, delivers to anyone thus equipped, a stealthy overwhelming advantage.  Such is that which probably confronts and challenges y’all, and it is quite eloquently touched upon in this posting …… https://fixingtheeconomists.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/the-deleuzian-philosophy-of-julian-assange/

It would also be quite naive to believe that he would be alone in his thoughts, whenever they are so transparently shared, although there is added advantage to be exploited in not labouring that particular point, methinks.

It’s a funny ole, mad, mad, mad world, is it not, and you can make it even crazier whenever you have command and control of the News agenda and IT skills in Digital/Binary Systems.

http://thedailybell.com/1613/Assange-Fever.html
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amanfromMars ….. on December 20, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Very perceptive, pilkingtonphil …… with that which we would know, or think we know, being as just the tip of a Colossus of an iceberg.

Do you think Ellingham Hall is a postmodern Station X?

https://fixingtheeconomists.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/the-deleuzian-philosophy-of-julian-assange/

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>

“The immortal words ‘I am Spartacus’ springs to mind here!” …. finsburyparker

Actually, finsburyparker, the collapse of the USAdministration is much more a case of a growing virtual awareness and model betatesting application of pioneering neuro-linguistic programming, and for those who would understand and major in such disciplines within IT, and who would freely explore and driver its Command and Control Memes at Master Pilot levels, are the immortal? words …. “I am SOLO. I will continue to disrupt at the highest levels” ….. more relevant, although I might also like to posit that relative may be the more accurate descriptor/operand.

What you are witnessing live, and carried on media, is nothing less than a global battle royal for hearts and minds, and the demise of the idiot warmonger and terrorist with the destruction of the military industrial complex money machine ….. and thus is it to be applauded and supported rather than condemned and foolishly flagged as a Code Red, which I imagine will be the next terrorist administrative move in a vain attempt to save a lost cause and perverse, subversive, fiat currency system.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assange-is-a-hitech-terrorist-says-biden-2164988.html
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 Flogging a dead horse doesn’t revitalise a failed system

As in everything to do with capitalist and airy fairy systems, following the money trail reveals the skeletons in the empty, and bereft of viable helpful future intelligence, cupboard, Roberto Casiraghi.  …… http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=175337

And one does wonder at the standard of intelligence used across the pond, with Biden’s handlers think his rant was wise, which if rated by an S&P or a Fitch would surely be a Sub-Prime D?  …….. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_credit_rating

Although that would appear to align perfect with the growing regard of the public to the performance of Barack Obama, who has delivered zilch on his promises to the nation by all accounts.  ……. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=175408 …. and the natives are sure to be revolted at the realisation that a banana republic reputation and classification awaits, and that cannot be good for business or anything.

I wonder if Mr Clegg is styling himself/being groomed in the meme? Say one thing to get in office and then do something completely different and at odds with everything one planned/promised/signed up for, which is fraud and deception in any circle, is it not, no matter how many excuses are dreamed up to justify the betrayal? 

Quite what Cameron wants to do with an albatross around his neck, unfortunately may say everything we need to know about his competence for high office too. Although that does somewhat throw into sharp focus the standard of intelligence and future vision supplied by whatever services are responsible for the smooth running of the Home and Foreign and Commonwealth Offices too, does it not.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/assange-is-a-hitech-terrorist-says-biden-2164988.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/20/2010 7:39:17 AM

“I should invite him,” Klaus Schwab, head of the World Economic Forum (WEF), told Sunday newspaper SonntagsZeitung. “But it is not possible as he is not allowed to leave Britain.” …. Reply from the Daily Bell

I wonder if he has a selection of proxies to choose from … to deliver a reality check to the Davos faithful and/or brainwashed on behalf of the …… well, it is in virtual terms, an Invisible and Intangible Movement against which there are no physical barriers or means of effective attack or competitive opposition …….. for is not what is being revealed just the simple but inconvenient truth regarding personal power grabs which are clothed as vital government actions?

Methinks then there would be definite shades and degrees of self-delusional behaviour and comment from the assembled wannabe global leadership contenders as they struggle to deny and come to terms with their very own Jack Nicholson “You cannot handle the truth” moment/dawning realisation.

http://thedailybell.com/1613/Assange-Fever.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/20/2010 11:31:33 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen, Wizards and Witches, Elves and Discombobulated Goblins,

It is somewhat odd that you appear to not consider the idea that Julian Assange is a lot smarter than he appears, or you would  imagine, or those who are being outed as disingenuous or downright criminal. And such an oversight and reluctance or inability to comprehend and realise that fact, delivers to anyone thus equipped, a stealthy overwhelming advantage.  Such is that which probably confronts and challenges y’all, and it is quite eloquently touched upon in this posting …… https://fixingtheeconomists.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/the-deleuzian-philosophy-of-julian-assange/

It would also be quite naive to believe that he would be alone in his thoughts, whenever they are so transparently shared, although there is added advantage to be exploited in not labouring that particular point, methinks.

It’s a funny ole, mad, mad, mad world, is it not, and you can make it even crazier whenever you have command and control of the News agenda and IT skills in Digital/Binary Systems.

http://thedailybell.com/1613/Assange-Fever.html
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amanfromMars ….. on December 20, 2010 at 4:40 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.

Very perceptive, pilkingtonphil …… with that which we would know, or think we know, being as just the tip of a Colossus of an iceberg.

Do you think Ellingham Hall is a postmodern Station X?

https://fixingtheeconomists.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/the-deleuzian-philosophy-of-julian-assange/

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>amanfromMars says:
19 December 2010 at 6:30 am

Sovereignty? You think there is anything like sovereignty today whenever the manipulation, the free flow and the subjective restriction/turning off of the supply tap, of easily invented credit and quantitatively eased loot, controls your every move. Oh please, get real, you are being played for ignorant suckers and sad fools by those who invent paper wealth for themselves and then enslave you with it whilst they have a ball and charge you for the privilege.

Educate yourselves or you will render yourselves as dumb schmucks if you are not already there.

Try these two hyperlinks …. with the first one containing this Ireland reference …..

“Internationally, Moody’s cut Ireland’s credit rating by five notches from something called Aa2 to Baa1 and warned it could further downgrade it to Baadfuckingidea. Money McBags doesn’t know what is more absurd, Moody’s rating system or that anyone would give a fuck about it. But hey, blinding insight like “the Irish government’s financial strength could decline further if economic growth were to be weaker than currently projected or the cost of stabilizing the banking system turn out to be higher than currently forecast,” provides a valuable tool for the market (the tool of course being the analyst who wrote that). ” …. http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tax-bill-signed-known-misery-compromise

And this other one, which tells you of the folly of secrecy because of the abuse of power which it tempts information controllers with, and which they don’t control, and thus do they generate the chaos in which y’all now live in. And it appears to mirror exactly the present Wikileaks saga too ….. http://www.progressive.org/images/pdf/1179.pdf …… although 31years ago. Then too was free speech defended against the fool tools of the establishment who would have you ignorant of the dodgy deeds that they do and would continue to do for their power plays over you. And they are too stupid to learn that they aren’t nearly smart enough, nor are they fit for future purpose in this new Reality of Instant Shared Global Communication, should they seek to Punish and Silence the Pushers of Knowledge …….. for that turns the tables on them and locks them into a Self Destruct Cycle.

http://sluggerotoole.com/2010/12/18/dont-beat-yourselves-up-over-loss-of-sovereignty-there-are-compensations/
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Uncle Sam has been here before, prosecuting and persecuting those into free speech, against the will of the people and the spirit of the Constitution …… just over 30 years ago.

And the powers that be didn’t fare very well then either, for even the slowest of wits and dimmest of souls knows that secrecy is invariable always used for personal abuse  and perverse enrichment and subversive advantage ………  http://www.progressive.org/images/pdf/1179.pdf ….. and slavery of the masses.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8211854/Bank-of-America-blocks-donations-to-WikiLeaks.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/19/2010 5:05:02 AM

“AmanfromMars said:”Gareth Williams was the real leaker not Bradly Manning.”” …. Posted by Onebornfree on 12/18/2010 6:46:07 PM

That is untrue, Onebornfree, for I have no knowledge of that and it is plain for all to see that it was something Posted by David on 12/17/2010 6:08:27 PM, which is what I shared. It is a novel theory.

Regarding the ongoing Wikileaks show, which is as a growing SMARTer Invisible Movement against Abusive Forces and Dodgy Sources, and as a Unilateral Declaration of Independence from Idiocy [to be dramatically/melodramatically florid] ….. the Powers that Be have been here before, and have lost badly to keep secrets which are invariably always used for their personal gain ……. http://www.progressive.org/images/pdf/1179.pdf

Is Bradley Manning, an Osama bin Laden clone and a convenient scapegoat to hide an assault on the Banking Sector ….. which is what you collapse or takeover if you want to exercise Power with Chaos Command and Control?

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html

Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/19/2010 5:09:51 AM

Please remove that annoying arrow and br after pdf in the address bar whenever you have clicked on Click to View Link to access what you need.

A persistent gremlin in the works, Daily Bell. Is it so difficult to get rid of?

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html

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>amanfromMars says:
19 December 2010 at 6:30 am

Sovereignty? You think there is anything like sovereignty today whenever the manipulation, the free flow and the subjective restriction/turning off of the supply tap, of easily invented credit and quantitatively eased loot, controls your every move. Oh please, get real, you are being played for ignorant suckers and sad fools by those who invent paper wealth for themselves and then enslave you with it whilst they have a ball and charge you for the privilege.

Educate yourselves or you will render yourselves as dumb schmucks if you are not already there.

Try these two hyperlinks …. with the first one containing this Ireland reference …..

“Internationally, Moody’s cut Ireland’s credit rating by five notches from something called Aa2 to Baa1 and warned it could further downgrade it to Baadfuckingidea. Money McBags doesn’t know what is more absurd, Moody’s rating system or that anyone would give a fuck about it. But hey, blinding insight like “the Irish government’s financial strength could decline further if economic growth were to be weaker than currently projected or the cost of stabilizing the banking system turn out to be higher than currently forecast,” provides a valuable tool for the market (the tool of course being the analyst who wrote that). ” …. http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tax-bill-signed-known-misery-compromise

And this other one, which tells you of the folly of secrecy because of the abuse of power which it tempts information controllers with, and which they don’t control, and thus do they generate the chaos in which y’all now live in. And it appears to mirror exactly the present Wikileaks saga too ….. http://www.progressive.org/images/pdf/1179.pdf …… although 31years ago. Then too was free speech defended against the fool tools of the establishment who would have you ignorant of the dodgy deeds that they do and would continue to do for their power plays over you. And they are too stupid to learn that they aren’t nearly smart enough, nor are they fit for future purpose in this new Reality of Instant Shared Global Communication, should they seek to Punish and Silence the Pushers of Knowledge …….. for that turns the tables on them and locks them into a Self Destruct Cycle.

http://sluggerotoole.com/2010/12/18/dont-beat-yourselves-up-over-loss-of-sovereignty-there-are-compensations/
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Uncle Sam has been here before, prosecuting and persecuting those into free speech, against the will of the people and the spirit of the Constitution …… just over 30 years ago.

And the powers that be didn’t fare very well then either, for even the slowest of wits and dimmest of souls knows that secrecy is invariable always used for personal abuse  and perverse enrichment and subversive advantage ………  http://www.progressive.org/images/pdf/1179.pdf ….. and slavery of the masses.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8211854/Bank-of-America-blocks-donations-to-WikiLeaks.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/19/2010 5:05:02 AM

“AmanfromMars said:”Gareth Williams was the real leaker not Bradly Manning.”” …. Posted by Onebornfree on 12/18/2010 6:46:07 PM

That is untrue, Onebornfree, for I have no knowledge of that and it is plain for all to see that it was something Posted by David on 12/17/2010 6:08:27 PM, which is what I shared. It is a novel theory.

Regarding the ongoing Wikileaks show, which is as a growing SMARTer Invisible Movement against Abusive Forces and Dodgy Sources, and as a Unilateral Declaration of Independence from Idiocy [to be dramatically/melodramatically florid] ….. the Powers that Be have been here before, and have lost badly to keep secrets which are invariably always used for their personal gain ……. http://www.progressive.org/images/pdf/1179.pdf

Is Bradley Manning, an Osama bin Laden clone and a convenient scapegoat to hide an assault on the Banking Sector ….. which is what you collapse or takeover if you want to exercise Power with Chaos Command and Control?

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html

Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/19/2010 5:09:51 AM

Please remove that annoying arrow and br after pdf in the address bar whenever you have clicked on Click to View Link to access what you need.

A persistent gremlin in the works, Daily Bell. Is it so difficult to get rid of?

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html

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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 11:08:42 PM

“The feeling that we are constantly being lied.” …. Posted by Siegfried on 12/17/2010 8:35:36 PM

Welcome to the Great Internet Game, Siegfried  …… http://cryptome.org/invent-intel.htm

“Gareth Williams was the real leaker not Bradly Manning. Go to Abel Danger site for more.” …. Posted by David on 12/17/2010 6:08:27 PM

An interesting premise, David, which would then have MI6/GCHQ in a pissing contest with NSA/CIA?

As for Assange, one would quite reasonably expect something extremely damaging about a perverse and corrupted administration to be posted onto the Internet, in retaliation/payback for his recent sojourn/sabbatical in Wormwood Scrubs jail. A bolt out of the blue and lightning attack/enlightening zeroday missive. Failing that, one must then start to imagine that he is indeed just a fraud and betatest puppet/crash test dummy in this new information sharing medium of the Internet …. SMART Meme Pool* …. which is quite a perfect enough vehicle for those into Advanced IntelAIgent Drives with Universal and Unilateral Command and Control of Human Perception with Global Operating Devices.

Is it true that whilst detained he was kept isolated from other prisoners in custody, who may have been criminals and who would have been able to suss out a fraud and/or snitch in their midst? Is the provision of solitary confinement a normal service afforded to those on remand for political agent provocateurism and popular radical fame ….. which now may be thought of, as false flag active damage limitation if Julian is turned and an establishment plant/mole/trojan/diversionary lightning rod. I cannot imagine that it was for his own protection because of the sexual nature of the charges levelled against him.

Certainly his very evasive non answer to a question put to him by the BBC, whenever he was basking in the media limelight at his mansion house arrest site, regarding the monies Wikileaks promised to the defence team of Bradley Manning and which haven’t been paid, and the then difficulty/failure experienced by the BBC in contacting him again about the issue to further explore the “anomaly”, is odd. Maybe he needed to retire for instruction and guidance on that matter, from his handlers?

And here is a treasure trove of wikileaks type information hosted by one of its original mentors …… http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-series.htm …… although I think Mr Young has distanced himself somewhat from the present incarnation/abortion of the project?  And what are we to make of that, I wonder.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 11:38:44 PM

In a Click to View Link window which opens up a 404 Page Not Found page, please check the address bar and remove the arrow and br at the end. Thanks.

Oh and I forgot to add another string to the SMART Meme Pool* bow with the inclusion of, and the metatdatamorph of it, to accommodate any possible Alien Gene Promotion with AI pimping and pumping NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive Sees ….. although I will accept that such may be at an altogether different level of consciousness and thus more specialised and more exclusive and for many, just too unbelievable to them to be realised and virtualised as true and a fact. 

It is though in such a case, an extremely fortunate convenience, for whenever it is dismissed and believed to be just a fiction, does it and IT, affords it and IT, a stealth and facilities which one can only imagine and dream of.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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Are there any CyberIntelAIgent Warriors posting on these boards, or is it a Virtual Discipline which has the MOD/MI5/MI6 scratching their heads and nuts over?

Control CyberSpace and you have Command of everything and whatever you like down on planet Earth …….. which makes it an Unbelievably Valuable Operational Environment for those into the Master Piloting of Master Programs. And it is attractive too, for it does not suffer the useful fool or the useless tool in the Great Game that IT and modern instant communications play. It is certainly something that Uncle Sam is trying to get his head around, presumably to throw his weight around and save themselves from economic collapse/dollar meltdown.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153455-wikileaks-does-again-53.html#post3542916

“You can “control” whatever you want – and spend a fortune (that you can’t afford) doing so…. but if self-delusion continues to creep in, a proportion of that “Intel” is going to be just stories that the intel gatherers made up, hoping it would please their masters.” …. Originally Posted by BigRonW

Quite so, BigRonW. The SMART* Operative though will guard against such self-delusion and nowadays, with the tools/machines that we have at our finger tips, and that are connected to the Internet and Networks InterNetworking JOINT Applications, both hard-wired and wireless/satellite, [for there are many internets] are outrageous fortunes made, rather than spent, by those most skilled in the Field. And anonymously too, striking like lightning phantoms against installations and administration which have no defences against constantly evolving and and improving attack vectors/zeroday vulnerabilities. And Masters in the genre spend virtually nothing and that makes them the most valuable of treasured assets, although invariably on secondment for mercenary deployment, given the nature of their skills.

*Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153455-wikileaks-does-again-53.html#post3543023

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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 11:08:42 PM

“The feeling that we are constantly being lied.” …. Posted by Siegfried on 12/17/2010 8:35:36 PM

Welcome to the Great Internet Game, Siegfried  …… http://cryptome.org/invent-intel.htm

“Gareth Williams was the real leaker not Bradly Manning. Go to Abel Danger site for more.” …. Posted by David on 12/17/2010 6:08:27 PM

An interesting premise, David, which would then have MI6/GCHQ in a pissing contest with NSA/CIA?

As for Assange, one would quite reasonably expect something extremely damaging about a perverse and corrupted administration to be posted onto the Internet, in retaliation/payback for his recent sojourn/sabbatical in Wormwood Scrubs jail. A bolt out of the blue and lightning attack/enlightening zeroday missive. Failing that, one must then start to imagine that he is indeed just a fraud and betatest puppet/crash test dummy in this new information sharing medium of the Internet …. SMART Meme Pool* …. which is quite a perfect enough vehicle for those into Advanced IntelAIgent Drives with Universal and Unilateral Command and Control of Human Perception with Global Operating Devices.

Is it true that whilst detained he was kept isolated from other prisoners in custody, who may have been criminals and who would have been able to suss out a fraud and/or snitch in their midst? Is the provision of solitary confinement a normal service afforded to those on remand for political agent provocateurism and popular radical fame ….. which now may be thought of, as false flag active damage limitation if Julian is turned and an establishment plant/mole/trojan/diversionary lightning rod. I cannot imagine that it was for his own protection because of the sexual nature of the charges levelled against him.

Certainly his very evasive non answer to a question put to him by the BBC, whenever he was basking in the media limelight at his mansion house arrest site, regarding the monies Wikileaks promised to the defence team of Bradley Manning and which haven’t been paid, and the then difficulty/failure experienced by the BBC in contacting him again about the issue to further explore the “anomaly”, is odd. Maybe he needed to retire for instruction and guidance on that matter, from his handlers?

And here is a treasure trove of wikileaks type information hosted by one of its original mentors …… http://cryptome.org/0003/wikileaks-series.htm …… although I think Mr Young has distanced himself somewhat from the present incarnation/abortion of the project?  And what are we to make of that, I wonder.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 11:38:44 PM

In a Click to View Link window which opens up a 404 Page Not Found page, please check the address bar and remove the arrow and br at the end. Thanks.

Oh and I forgot to add another string to the SMART Meme Pool* bow with the inclusion of, and the metatdatamorph of it, to accommodate any possible Alien Gene Promotion with AI pimping and pumping NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive Sees ….. although I will accept that such may be at an altogether different level of consciousness and thus more specialised and more exclusive and for many, just too unbelievable to them to be realised and virtualised as true and a fact. 

It is though in such a case, an extremely fortunate convenience, for whenever it is dismissed and believed to be just a fiction, does it and IT, affords it and IT, a stealth and facilities which one can only imagine and dream of.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

Are there any CyberIntelAIgent Warriors posting on these boards, or is it a Virtual Discipline which has the MOD/MI5/MI6 scratching their heads and nuts over?

Control CyberSpace and you have Command of everything and whatever you like down on planet Earth …….. which makes it an Unbelievably Valuable Operational Environment for those into the Master Piloting of Master Programs. And it is attractive too, for it does not suffer the useful fool or the useless tool in the Great Game that IT and modern instant communications play. It is certainly something that Uncle Sam is trying to get his head around, presumably to throw his weight around and save themselves from economic collapse/dollar meltdown.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153455-wikileaks-does-again-53.html#post3542916

“You can “control” whatever you want – and spend a fortune (that you can’t afford) doing so…. but if self-delusion continues to creep in, a proportion of that “Intel” is going to be just stories that the intel gatherers made up, hoping it would please their masters.” …. Originally Posted by BigRonW

Quite so, BigRonW. The SMART* Operative though will guard against such self-delusion and nowadays, with the tools/machines that we have at our finger tips, and that are connected to the Internet and Networks InterNetworking JOINT Applications, both hard-wired and wireless/satellite, [for there are many internets] are outrageous fortunes made, rather than spent, by those most skilled in the Field. And anonymously too, striking like lightning phantoms against installations and administration which have no defences against constantly evolving and and improving attack vectors/zeroday vulnerabilities. And Masters in the genre spend virtually nothing and that makes them the most valuable of treasured assets, although invariably on secondment for mercenary deployment, given the nature of their skills.

*Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/153455-wikileaks-does-again-53.html#post3543023

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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 3:44:25 AM

“@ CatWriter…..fantastic idea you proposed of coming together as a group.” …. Posted by Jeannie Queenie on 12/17/2010 1:46:21 AM

A word of caution is needed there, Jeannie Queenie, for it leaves the group members liable to malicious prosecution and persecution as a conspiracy should they start to gain any traction which casts a bright light into dark, but incredibly lucrative, personally rewarding corners of an established practice, which cannot survive the light of day and general knowledge.

Which is what the present scrabbling around for a viable pretext to indict Wikileaks/Assange for spying/espionage is all about ….. and it makes those doing all the scrabbling about look even more ridiculous as they try to defend the indefensible, and for which they are responsible. 

2011 is going to be a quite interesting year, methinks. If one was into predictions, one might even put a sizeable bet on it being “The Year of the ZerodDay Trader” such is the line up/stack of vulnerabilities so freely available for XSSXXXXPloit and Export.

And the flip side of that coin is that it will also be a mega metadata bumper year for those competent virtual and viral security firms/agents which track them in the guerrilla marketing field.

As may be noticed by the astute reader in all of the above, is there no mention of it being preventable and thus avoided and unlikely to happen.

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 11:42:19 PM

Dan,

You have completely missed the point, which is entirely the opposite of what you have speculated ….”If WikiLeaks would justify a clampdown on internet activity, it would have served a highly valuable purpose, for the web has proven to be a thorn in the side of our Platonic Masters.“

In your own vernacular, it is probably definitely Platonic Masters test drivering a new and Advanced Internet Vehicle ….. for Special Command and Control Vessels. And that is best and easiest imagined as it being a novel sort of, or if you are much more deeply into binary technologies for the digital manipulation of perception and human signalling, an innovative phorm of shake down trials, beta-testing performance and reliability parameters and environmental impact issues.

Which is surely exactly what one would expect from the likes of a philanthropic organization set up by a billionaire investor, as is typified by the likes of an Open Society Institute and George Soros. They are though, but just as one smart shark in a very crowded and active sea/field/see, and thus is any certain identification of prime moving force, immaculately clouded with myriad other possibilities/Great Game player investors.

Virtual Stealth is real big business, and you can expect all the usual smarter Great Game suspects in the Establishment to be vying for uncompetitive and overwhelming advantage in ITs New and SurReal CyberSpace Environment, with the other slower ones into such Games, taking a buffetting and a pasting and a bubble bath, and losing their fortunes trying to prop up and push a failed and disgraced, earlier sub-prime model with dodgy investment vehicles.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 10:01:12 AM

What you may not yet realise is that truth telling is now regarded as a legitimate pastime which authorities are unable to prosecute you for should you also be considered or classified as a whistleblower, for to spin a tissue of lies is really just as an act of treason in a political/diplomatic context, for it is invariably done solely for personal enrichment at the expense of the greater good. There is though the chance of a persecution in such cases, but that just alerts everyone to those who have some dirty little secrets to hide.

This is not spin though ….. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40707699/ns/technology_and_science-security/ …… and is the game changer elephant in the room Uncle Sam has to now deal with, and that will require the import of new deeper thinking talent with a significant investment/signing on fee to the top guns required, and which they so badly need, because they are in Dire Straits indeed whenever their Codes are hacked and cracked.

““The most sophisticated adversaries are going to go unnoticed on our networks,” she said.” ……. and create havoc to order at their leisure and pleasure too, should they even begin to suspect that they are to be pursued rather than welcomed into the fold as a valuable protected asset ….. a virtual NOC.

Forget about all that nonsense in the past, which is forever regurgitated to occupy and waste everyone’s time and stop them thinking about how things are planned, which is exactly what such nonsense is used for, and consider that once you know how easily Man is programmed to believe what he reads and sees and hears in the media, the dolt can be fooled to believe anything, whilst the spinners of tales can loot the treasury and be protected by lies.

And that, if it is attacked, is self defeating, for the truth cannot be bettered or harmed, but only strengthened, even whenever attacked.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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“Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, warned on Thursday that the government would not “stand idly by” if banks pay out huge bonuses at the expense of increasing lending.” 

You’ll not be able to get any bookies taking bets on that being true ….. ergo is it Clegg just huffing and puffing and blowing hot air yet again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8207767/Banks-face-an-extra-80bn-of-bad-debts.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 5:17:05 AM

“He’s being groomed. Sure he is.” …. Daily Bell sensationalist conversationalist,  “Patriot.”

DB, A rhetorical question, which doesn’t require an answer ……  Did you reply to “Patriot”, pointing out to him in the clearest and most eloquent and elegant of terms, that it was the likes of he who is being groomed?

“He could in fact, according to reports we’ve read, end up in the US facing espionage charges.”

Only if they are prepared to burn the American Constitution, DB, for that will be all it is good for if they try to trump up charges against the ……. well, it is the New Reality, isn’t it, with virtually anonymous IT bods and boffins ploughing a novel furrow and planting a new field of exotic crops for future feeding needs.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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PC Plod …….. Advanced IntelAIgents Division
Posted Friday 17th December 2010 03:06 GMT

“Further attacks were launched after the firm’s founder, Andrew Crossley, mocked the group’s initial DDoS in an interview with The Register. Disastrous efforts to restore the website then publicly exposed confidential company files, including the personal data of ACS:Law’s targets. The Information Commissioner is investigating the apparent breach of the Data Protection Act by the firm.

Meanwhile, the Met’s investigation of the incident – and the more recent WikiLeaks-related attacks on the websites of Visa, Mastercard and PayPal – could have serious consequences for British members of Anonymous.“

Is that Met investigation, an investigation into an extortion racket being run by the firm’s founder ….. who would appear to be a serial loser if one can believe the ACS:Law wiki …… “The main partner of the company, and its only registered solicitor,[3] is Andrew Crossley. Crossley has twice been found guilty of conduct unbefitting a solicitor by the Solicitors Regulation Authority, in 2002 and again in 2006.[4] In August 2010, the Solicitors Regulation Authority confirmed that Crossley was being summoned to his third disciplinary tribunal, in response to ACS:Law’s action against suspected copyright infringers.” ?

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/16/met_anonymous/
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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/16/10 | 10:23 pm |

“The Justice Department would have no problem distinguishing WikiLeaks from traditional media outlets, if it decides to charge WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with violating the Espionage Act, a former federal prosecutor told lawmakers Thursday.”

Methinks, with such an opinion as that, that is why Wainstein is a former federal prosecutor. Some folk just don’t have what it takes, and it is best just to let them go.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-and-espionage-act/

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Flogging a dead horse……

Posted Friday 17th December 2010 14:03 GMT

“It is obviously in the national interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.” …. dephormation.org.uk Posted Friday 17th December 2010 12:53 GMT

It is obviously not in the national security interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.

Move along now, nothing to see here.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/17/cps_phorm/
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>Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 3:44:25 AM

“@ CatWriter…..fantastic idea you proposed of coming together as a group.” …. Posted by Jeannie Queenie on 12/17/2010 1:46:21 AM

A word of caution is needed there, Jeannie Queenie, for it leaves the group members liable to malicious prosecution and persecution as a conspiracy should they start to gain any traction which casts a bright light into dark, but incredibly lucrative, personally rewarding corners of an established practice, which cannot survive the light of day and general knowledge.

Which is what the present scrabbling around for a viable pretext to indict Wikileaks/Assange for spying/espionage is all about ….. and it makes those doing all the scrabbling about look even more ridiculous as they try to defend the indefensible, and for which they are responsible. 

2011 is going to be a quite interesting year, methinks. If one was into predictions, one might even put a sizeable bet on it being “The Year of the ZerodDay Trader” such is the line up/stack of vulnerabilities so freely available for XSSXXXXPloit and Export.

And the flip side of that coin is that it will also be a mega metadata bumper year for those competent virtual and viral security firms/agents which track them in the guerrilla marketing field.

As may be noticed by the astute reader in all of the above, is there no mention of it being preventable and thus avoided and unlikely to happen.

http://thedailybell.com/1602/Wests-Employment-Dysfunction.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/16/2010 11:42:19 PM

Dan,

You have completely missed the point, which is entirely the opposite of what you have speculated ….”If WikiLeaks would justify a clampdown on internet activity, it would have served a highly valuable purpose, for the web has proven to be a thorn in the side of our Platonic Masters.“

In your own vernacular, it is probably definitely Platonic Masters test drivering a new and Advanced Internet Vehicle ….. for Special Command and Control Vessels. And that is best and easiest imagined as it being a novel sort of, or if you are much more deeply into binary technologies for the digital manipulation of perception and human signalling, an innovative phorm of shake down trials, beta-testing performance and reliability parameters and environmental impact issues.

Which is surely exactly what one would expect from the likes of a philanthropic organization set up by a billionaire investor, as is typified by the likes of an Open Society Institute and George Soros. They are though, but just as one smart shark in a very crowded and active sea/field/see, and thus is any certain identification of prime moving force, immaculately clouded with myriad other possibilities/Great Game player investors.

Virtual Stealth is real big business, and you can expect all the usual smarter Great Game suspects in the Establishment to be vying for uncompetitive and overwhelming advantage in ITs New and SurReal CyberSpace Environment, with the other slower ones into such Games, taking a buffetting and a pasting and a bubble bath, and losing their fortunes trying to prop up and push a failed and disgraced, earlier sub-prime model with dodgy investment vehicles.

http://thedailybell.com/1603/Truth-About-WikiLeaks.html
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 10:01:12 AM

What you may not yet realise is that truth telling is now regarded as a legitimate pastime which authorities are unable to prosecute you for should you also be considered or classified as a whistleblower, for to spin a tissue of lies is really just as an act of treason in a political/diplomatic context, for it is invariably done solely for personal enrichment at the expense of the greater good. There is though the chance of a persecution in such cases, but that just alerts everyone to those who have some dirty little secrets to hide.

This is not spin though ….. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40707699/ns/technology_and_science-security/ …… and is the game changer elephant in the room Uncle Sam has to now deal with, and that will require the import of new deeper thinking talent with a significant investment/signing on fee to the top guns required, and which they so badly need, because they are in Dire Straits indeed whenever their Codes are hacked and cracked.

““The most sophisticated adversaries are going to go unnoticed on our networks,” she said.” ……. and create havoc to order at their leisure and pleasure too, should they even begin to suspect that they are to be pursued rather than welcomed into the fold as a valuable protected asset ….. a virtual NOC.

Forget about all that nonsense in the past, which is forever regurgitated to occupy and waste everyone’s time and stop them thinking about how things are planned, which is exactly what such nonsense is used for, and consider that once you know how easily Man is programmed to believe what he reads and sees and hears in the media, the dolt can be fooled to believe anything, whilst the spinners of tales can loot the treasury and be protected by lies.

And that, if it is attacked, is self defeating, for the truth cannot be bettered or harmed, but only strengthened, even whenever attacked.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

“Nick Clegg, the deputy prime minister, warned on Thursday that the government would not “stand idly by” if banks pay out huge bonuses at the expense of increasing lending.” 

You’ll not be able to get any bookies taking bets on that being true ….. ergo is it Clegg just huffing and puffing and blowing hot air yet again.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8207767/Banks-face-an-extra-80bn-of-bad-debts.html

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Posted by AmanfromMars on 12/17/2010 5:17:05 AM

“He’s being groomed. Sure he is.” …. Daily Bell sensationalist conversationalist,  “Patriot.”

DB, A rhetorical question, which doesn’t require an answer ……  Did you reply to “Patriot”, pointing out to him in the clearest and most eloquent and elegant of terms, that it was the likes of he who is being groomed?

“He could in fact, according to reports we’ve read, end up in the US facing espionage charges.”

Only if they are prepared to burn the American Constitution, DB, for that will be all it is good for if they try to trump up charges against the ……. well, it is the New Reality, isn’t it, with virtually anonymous IT bods and boffins ploughing a novel furrow and planting a new field of exotic crops for future feeding needs.

http://thedailybell.com/1606/Ascension-of-Assange.html
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PC Plod …….. Advanced IntelAIgents Division
Posted Friday 17th December 2010 03:06 GMT

“Further attacks were launched after the firm’s founder, Andrew Crossley, mocked the group’s initial DDoS in an interview with The Register. Disastrous efforts to restore the website then publicly exposed confidential company files, including the personal data of ACS:Law’s targets. The Information Commissioner is investigating the apparent breach of the Data Protection Act by the firm.

Meanwhile, the Met’s investigation of the incident – and the more recent WikiLeaks-related attacks on the websites of Visa, Mastercard and PayPal – could have serious consequences for British members of Anonymous.“

Is that Met investigation, an investigation into an extortion racket being run by the firm’s founder ….. who would appear to be a serial loser if one can believe the ACS:Law wiki …… “The main partner of the company, and its only registered solicitor,[3] is Andrew Crossley. Crossley has twice been found guilty of conduct unbefitting a solicitor by the Solicitors Regulation Authority, in 2002 and again in 2006.[4] In August 2010, the Solicitors Regulation Authority confirmed that Crossley was being summoned to his third disciplinary tribunal, in response to ACS:Law’s action against suspected copyright infringers.” ?

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/16/met_anonymous/
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Posted by: amanfromMars | 12/16/10 | 10:23 pm |

“The Justice Department would have no problem distinguishing WikiLeaks from traditional media outlets, if it decides to charge WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with violating the Espionage Act, a former federal prosecutor told lawmakers Thursday.”

Methinks, with such an opinion as that, that is why Wainstein is a former federal prosecutor. Some folk just don’t have what it takes, and it is best just to let them go.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-and-espionage-act/

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Flogging a dead horse……

Posted Friday 17th December 2010 14:03 GMT

“It is obviously in the national interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.” …. dephormation.org.uk Posted Friday 17th December 2010 12:53 GMT

It is obviously not in the national security interest (never mind the public interest) to prosecute people who engage in covert espionage, copyright theft, fraud, and computer misuse.

Move along now, nothing to see here.

http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/12/17/cps_phorm/
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